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02-27-2008, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
To my knowledge, there aren't any girls of race in the Greek system.
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First, I'm assuming by "girls of race" you're referring to minority women. Race =/= Black or whatever it is you think it means.
Second, maybe if people like you said "hey, this isn't tradition, this is wrong and I'm going to support sororities that pledge diverse women as a positive thing" then maybe more minority women would feel comfortable enough to join your greek system and sororities wouldn't be scared to pledge them.
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02-27-2008, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by skylark
First, I'm assuming by "girls of race" you're referring to minority women. Race =/= Black or whatever it is you think it means.
Second, maybe if people like you said "hey, this isn't tradition, this is wrong and I'm going to support sororities that pledge diverse women as a positive thing" then maybe more minority women would feel comfortable enough to join your greek system and sororities wouldn't be scared to pledge them.
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Support?
Do you want me to give them money?
The University of Arkansas is 4% African-American.
I believe the other races have nearly the same or less representation.
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02-27-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Do you want me to give them money?
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I guess that would be the thing your mind would jump to -- money.
Believe it or not, some causes need a different kind of support. You can't just buy people off your entire life, you know. Sometimes YOU actually have to stand up for something.
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02-27-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skylark
I guess that would be the thing your mind would jump to -- money.
Believe it or not, some causes need a different kind of support. You can't just buy people off your entire life, you know. Sometimes YOU actually have to stand up for something.
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Okay, well what support do you deduce that I should do?
I'd love to hear this, honestly. Should I dress in a cheerleader costume outside the girls houses and say "GO MINORITY WOMEN!!! GO GREEK!!" when they don't rush...and if they decide to rush Sophomore year, they're already too late?
edit: You don't quite understand what I mean by money, because this is the most important part of it. As Arkansas is very poor generally, the minorities are poorer than the whites as a whole. How are they going to pay exorbitant sorority fees if they can barely feed their family and go to the University on scholarship?
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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02-27-2008, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
edit: You don't quite understand what I mean by money, because this is the most important part of it. As Arkansas is very poor generally, the minorities are poorer than the whites as a whole. How are they going to pay exorbitant sorority fees if they can barely feed their family and go to the University on scholarship?
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Seriously? Is this where your mind is going right now?
Your time would be better spent looking up Beyonce Knowles.
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02-27-2008, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS
Seriously? Is this where your mind is going right now?
Your time would be better spent looking up Beyonce Knowles.
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Would you deny that there's a significant income gap between whites and different races...remember if you say no, you'd be going against your Marxism.
With that, and with Arkansas being poor as it is...it is very difficult for minorities to pay for very expensive sororities.
I do recall one minority being in a top tier sorority, as I think about it. She went to one of the top high schools in the state and is very, very wealthy.
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Overall, though, it's the bigness of the car that counts the most. Because when something bad happens in a really big car – accidentally speeding through the middle of a gang of unruly young people who have been taunting you in a drive-in restaurant, for instance – it happens very far away – way out at the end of your fenders. It's like a civil war in Africa; you know, it doesn't really concern you too much. - P.J. O'Rourke
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02-27-2008, 06:10 PM
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I am appalled at the stupidity of some people on Greek Chat ... Elephant Walk being near the top of the list. Some inferiors like him can only operate in anonymity. I suspect if we met in "real" life he would be the little twerp who barely got in to his fraternity to begin with (and one of the few accomplishments he will ever have in life). I vote to ignore him and maybe he will go away.
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02-27-2008, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Would you deny that there's a significant income gap between whites and different races...remember if you say no, you'd be going against your Marxism.
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It isn't my Marxism.
DUH. The obvious gap between blacks and whites is why I brought up race in that "south" thread when someone celebrated the social class divide. You get it now but didn't get it then and accused me of bringing race into something that had nothing to do with race.  But here you are--I guess it's okay because whites can bring up race whenever and however without being accused of irrationally playing the "race card."
However, none of what you're typing about now really has to do with what your posts were initially about. You're struggling to bring the attention away from bigotry and address social issues. LOL. Nice try.
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I do recall one minority being in a top tier sorority, as I think about it. She went to one of the top high schools in the state and is very, very wealthy.
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So did the fraternity men shun the sorority or not? That's what we're typing about now because you brought this to the forefront.
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02-27-2008, 07:00 PM
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I do recall one minority being in a top tier sorority, as I think about it. She went to one of the top high schools in the state and is very, very wealthy.
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DSTChaos was asking if THIS sorority was shunned, not the ones who had the bad taste to pledge the poor black girl.
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02-27-2008, 05:48 PM
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....then maybe more minority women would feel comfortable enough to join your greek system and sororities wouldn't be scared to pledge them.
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And if more minority women don't, it will be because they don't want to and not because they "can't."
I know organizations' reputations matter but it really sucks that fraternity men's opinions matter this much (not just with this specific incident but in general). There are so many people in the campus and local communities whose opinions should matter more, even if the mixers and stuff could be impacted.
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