Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

I think this all boils down to one thing: TRADITION. My dad taught me how to dress, his dad taught him how to dress, and it goes on like that. Going off that point, it seems (and someone correct me if I'm wrong) that in well to do social circles in the North, dressing "stylishly" is much more important than simply dressing appropriately. In the South it's the opposite.

You totally missed the point.

In the North, in many situations, wearing jeans IS dressing appropriately. It's freaking cold here and wind blows up your khakis/chinos/whatevers.

Yes there are clubs and events where men are expected to wear dress pants and ties. They are not the norm for 22 year old men on their weekends, however.

This is starting to remind me of the chapter consultant we had who criticized our "casual" dress and didn't understand why we weren't wearing silk blouses, dress pants and flats every day to class. BECAUSE WE HAVE HILLS. BECAUSE WE HAVE SNOW. BECAUSE IT'S FREAKING COLD. I would love to wear cute sundresses and sandals every day, but I'm not going to, because I'm not an idiot - I want to be warm.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You totally missed the point.

In the North, in many social situations, wearing jeans IS dressing appropriately. It's freaking cold here and wind blows up your khakis/chinos/whatevers.

Yes there are clubs and events where men are expected to wear dress pants and ties. They are not the norm for 22 year old men on their weekends, however.

This is starting to remind me of the chapter consultant we had who criticized our "casual" dress and didn't understand why we weren't wearing silk blouses, dress pants and flats every day to class. BECAUSE WE HAVE HILLS. BECAUSE WE HAVE SNOW. BECAUSE IT'S FREAKING COLD. I would love to wear cute sundresses and sandals every day, but I'm not going to, because I'm not an idiot - I want to be warm.

Khakis are just as warm as jeans...

Sorry, but I don't believe that wearing jeans is appropriate for any career holding adult with GOOD TASTE in a social situation. I never said anything about ties or dress pants. Khakis are not dress pants. Jeans here bring up connotation of the blue collar working class or adolescence and those are both something to be avoided in many social circles (eg, Greek alumni).

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Khakis are just as warm as jeans...

Sorry, but I don't believe that wearing jeans is appropriate for any career holding adult with GOOD TASTE in a social situation. I never said anything about ties or dress pants. Khakis are not dress pants. Jeans here bring up connotation of the blue collar working class or adolescence and those are both something to be avoided in many social circles (eg, Greek alumni).

So what you're saying is, you can't be blue collar and a Greek alumnus? Only blue collar people wear jeans? Greeks avoid socializing with blue collar people? My God, you ARE an idiot. Some of those "blue collar" people are probably making more than you'll EVER make, and far more committed to their community.

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by 33girl

So what you're saying is, you can't be blue collar and a Greek alumnus?

Only blue collar people wear jeans? Greeks avoid socializing with blue collar people? My God, you ARE an idiot. Some of those "blue collar" people are probably making more than you'll EVER make, and far more committed to their community.

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

Just keep on talking, darling. I told you I was done, and I am.

[bowsandtoes]

Originally Posted by 33girl

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

Wearing respectable clothing won't get you a bid, that comes down to who you know, where you're from, who you are, etc.

However, if you come to an SEC or other strong Southern school and try to get in the door at a party at a top house wearing a A+F hoodie and baggy jeans, you'll be laughed at and told to keep walking.

A) You aren't from the South
B) You're not in a fraternity
C) This thread is not for you.

Get over your inferiority complex and stop hating on things you know nothing about.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

A) You aren't from the South
B) You're not in a fraternity
C) This thread is not for you.

Get over your inferiority complex and stop hating on things you know nothing about.

I agree. There are two or three posters who come running at the drop of a hat when anything is mentioned about Southern/SEC culture.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

I agree. There are two or three posters who come running at the drop of a hat when anything is mentioned about Southern/SEC culture.

People from SEC greek life do have a tendency to let our disregard for the rest of the country show pretty plainly sometimes. Think about how people refer to the toughest sorority rushes, old row vs. new row, top tier, etc. We take a lot for granted about what Greek life is all about, and I'm sure it would make me mad if other regions dished it out as frequently.

On the other hand, I can't imagine arguing with someone from a different area about how they do things as much as happens either.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

People from SEC greek life do have a tendency to let our disregard for the rest of the country show pretty plainly sometimes. Think about how people refer to the toughest sorority rushes, old row vs. new row, top tier, etc. We take a lot for granted about what Greek life is all about, and I'm sure it would make me mad if other regions dished it out as frequently.

On the other hand, I can't imagine arguing with someone from a different area about how they do things as much as happens either.

Yeah...it's definitely a different world, but people keep getting caught up in what's 'better'. Neither are better. I'm sure there are plenty of people in SEC schools that wish their chapter was more like a northern school, and vice versa. So..it's really pointless. Just because an AST chapter in Louisiana does formal rush with frills and has 200 people in their chapter and only wears sundresses to class (I've no idea if this is true about that chapter, I'm just making an example) doesn't mean they AREN'T MY SISTERS. So if someone wants to say that southern is better than northern, you're basically saying that the sisters [or brothers] in northern chapters are underneath you, and vice versa. And..that's not cool.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

Wearing respectable clothing won't get you a bid, that comes down to who you know, where you're from, who you are, etc.

However, if you come to an SEC or other strong Southern school and try to get in the door at a party at a top house wearing a A+F hoodie and baggy jeans, you'll be laughed at and told to keep walking.

Oh for crying out loud in a bucket.

I am not saying you should come to rush ANYWHERE wearing a hoodie.

I am responding to the numbskull who said that no one over 22 should wear jeans unless they're slopping the hogs and anyone who does isn't dressed "appropriately."

This thread has gotten completely off track and no longer has anything to do with rush, in case you didn't notice.

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