Biggest Rush Mistakes at any institution

[33girl]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Khakis are just as warm as jeans...

Sorry, but I don't believe that wearing jeans is appropriate for any career holding adult with GOOD TASTE in a social situation. I never said anything about ties or dress pants. Khakis are not dress pants. Jeans here bring up connotation of the blue collar working class or adolescence and those are both something to be avoided in many social circles (eg, Greek alumni).

So what you're saying is, you can't be blue collar and a Greek alumnus? Only blue collar people wear jeans? Greeks avoid socializing with blue collar people? My God, you ARE an idiot. Some of those "blue collar" people are probably making more than you'll EVER make, and far more committed to their community.

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by 33girl

So what you're saying is, you can't be blue collar and a Greek alumnus?

Only blue collar people wear jeans? Greeks avoid socializing with blue collar people? My God, you ARE an idiot. Some of those "blue collar" people are probably making more than you'll EVER make, and far more committed to their community.

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

Just keep on talking, darling. I told you I was done, and I am.

[bowsandtoes]

Originally Posted by 33girl

See, this is what sticks in a lot of people's craws when the southern posters start in - you seem to think being a shallow snob and judging people by the way they dress is an asset. I don't deny that some of that goes on in Greek chapters and elsewhere in the north, but there's a difference between acknowledging it and wallowing in it. Any stupid schlub can put on what is basically a uniform and fake his way into your circles if he really wants to.

Wearing respectable clothing won't get you a bid, that comes down to who you know, where you're from, who you are, etc.

However, if you come to an SEC or other strong Southern school and try to get in the door at a party at a top house wearing a A+F hoodie and baggy jeans, you'll be laughed at and told to keep walking.

A) You aren't from the South
B) You're not in a fraternity
C) This thread is not for you.

Get over your inferiority complex and stop hating on things you know nothing about.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

A) You aren't from the South
B) You're not in a fraternity
C) This thread is not for you.

Get over your inferiority complex and stop hating on things you know nothing about.

I agree. There are two or three posters who come running at the drop of a hat when anything is mentioned about Southern/SEC culture.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

I agree. There are two or three posters who come running at the drop of a hat when anything is mentioned about Southern/SEC culture.

People from SEC greek life do have a tendency to let our disregard for the rest of the country show pretty plainly sometimes. Think about how people refer to the toughest sorority rushes, old row vs. new row, top tier, etc. We take a lot for granted about what Greek life is all about, and I'm sure it would make me mad if other regions dished it out as frequently.

On the other hand, I can't imagine arguing with someone from a different area about how they do things as much as happens either.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

People from SEC greek life do have a tendency to let our disregard for the rest of the country show pretty plainly sometimes. Think about how people refer to the toughest sorority rushes, old row vs. new row, top tier, etc. We take a lot for granted about what Greek life is all about, and I'm sure it would make me mad if other regions dished it out as frequently.

On the other hand, I can't imagine arguing with someone from a different area about how they do things as much as happens either.

Yeah...it's definitely a different world, but people keep getting caught up in what's 'better'. Neither are better. I'm sure there are plenty of people in SEC schools that wish their chapter was more like a northern school, and vice versa. So..it's really pointless. Just because an AST chapter in Louisiana does formal rush with frills and has 200 people in their chapter and only wears sundresses to class (I've no idea if this is true about that chapter, I'm just making an example) doesn't mean they AREN'T MY SISTERS. So if someone wants to say that southern is better than northern, you're basically saying that the sisters [or brothers] in northern chapters are underneath you, and vice versa. And..that's not cool.

[sasquatch]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

So if someone wants to say that southern is better than northern, you're basically saying that the sisters [or brothers] in northern chapters are underneath you, and vice versa. And..that's not cool.

Well see, that's another thing. And I'm opening up a WHOLE new can of worms here and a LOT of people aren't going to like it. This mainly just goes for fraternities. Less so for sororities, but still does go on to some degree. Honestly, I don't consider our chapter at Northwest Central South Dakota State (just made that up, but you get the point) my brothers and I don't know anyone in my chapter who does. And it's not because they're from the North, it's because we don't know them. There is a chapter of my fraternity at another campus 5 miles away and we do not consider them our brothers. I think this is just an example of chapters at SEC schools being very independent of Nationals in most cases. I know most other fraternities at my school feel the same way. I hear some people on here talk about not doing something because nationals says they can't, etc and that's completely foreign to me.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

Well see, that's another thing. And I'm opening up a WHOLE new can of worms here and a LOT of people aren't going to like it. This mainly just goes for fraternities. Less so for sororities, but still does go on to some degree. Honestly, I don't consider our chapter at Northwest Central South Dakota State (just made that up, but you get the point) my brothers and I don't know anyone in my chapter who does. And it's not because they're from the North, it's because we don't know them. There is a chapter of my fraternity at another campus 5 miles away and we do not consider them our brothers. I think this is just an example of chapters at SEC schools being very independent of Nationals in most cases. I know most other fraternities at my school feel the same way. I hear some people on here talk about not doing something because nationals says they can't, etc and that's completely foreign to me.

This is a little sad to me, but I know that for some chapters it's true.

What I don't understand is why you all stay tied to the national group? Do you think you're carrying on the real traditions of the founders and it's the other chapters and that the overly PC folks and overly concerned about liability folks at the national level who have gone astray?

If I didn't really value the national sisterhood, I think I'd just want to be a local, not share the national traditions and symbols but ignore the bond. Can you explain?

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Yeah...it's definitely a different world, but people keep getting caught up in what's 'better'. Neither are better. I'm sure there are plenty of people in SEC schools that wish their chapter was more like a northern school, and vice versa. So..it's really pointless. Just because an AST chapter in Louisiana does formal rush with frills and has 200 people in their chapter and only wears sundresses to class (I've no idea if this is true about that chapter, I'm just making an example) doesn't mean they AREN'T MY SISTERS. So if someone wants to say that southern is better than northern, you're basically saying that the sisters [or brothers] in northern chapters are underneath you, and vice versa. And..that's not cool.

I'm in agreement with this.

I think there's a value in being honest about how different expectations are so that people who go through recruitment out of state can do their best in the process if they want to or understand in advance that some chapters aren't really interested in them so they can focus on the ones that are.

Sometimes people get derailed by imagining the system that they think ought to be rather than the system that IS and that's in this thread from being to end.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I'm in agreement with this.

I think there's a value in being honest about how different expectations are so that people who go through recruitment out of state can do their best in the process if they want to or understand in advance that some chapters aren't really interested in them so they can focus on the ones that are.

Sometimes people get derailed by imagining the system that they think ought to be rather than the system that IS and that's in this thread from being to end.

THIS. It disgusts me that the PHC at Bama won't tell potentials they NEED recs...because they DO need them. If it wasn't for GC or other alumnae, many potentials would have no idea, and therefore no real chance of acquiring a bid. We as sorority women and fraternity men need to be REALISTIC about how rush is at our chapter so that potentials have the best chance to succeed.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bowsandtoes

Wearing respectable clothing won't get you a bid, that comes down to who you know, where you're from, who you are, etc.

However, if you come to an SEC or other strong Southern school and try to get in the door at a party at a top house wearing a A+F hoodie and baggy jeans, you'll be laughed at and told to keep walking.

Oh for crying out loud in a bucket.

I am not saying you should come to rush ANYWHERE wearing a hoodie.

I am responding to the numbskull who said that no one over 22 should wear jeans unless they're slopping the hogs and anyone who does isn't dressed "appropriately."

This thread has gotten completely off track and no longer has anything to do with rush, in case you didn't notice.

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[lillady85]

Originally Posted by TSteven

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