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Old 02-14-2008, 02:44 PM
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Let me clarify my clarification - 'cause I wasn't specific enough. I'm surprised any member of the NPC or member of what I guess you can call non-BGLO or multi-cultural fraternities isn't at least aware of other NPC members - in this case, I was responding to bowsandtoes. I wouldn't expect the BGLOs or multicultural groups to know the members of the NPC, or study them as a part of pledging or intake. Kudos to them if they did, or for those of you who have picked up information on GC. I've certainly learned a great deal about non-NPC sororities here - rule #1 - DON'T ASK ABOUT INTAKE.

And I was surprised when ladygreek said other NPHC groups don't study the other 8 - maybe I wasn't clear about that. Sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing NPHC groups for not knowing about NPC - that isn't what I meant to convey.

I realize that this has moved beyond the north/south thing - but to some extent it is emblematic of the problem. The world is much larger than just your town, and the Greek world is much larger than just your org ( or even your GLO's umbrella group). It's easy to assume that the way you and your campus "do it" is the right way, but the fact of the matter is that campuses and GLOs are able to meet a variety of different needs by virtue of their differences. GMTA, Legallybrunette.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:50 PM
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Well, here's the thing.

If someone referenced a group w/ three Greek letters in it while making a post about sororities and Greek life, I'd google it instead of just saying "I don't know what that is" and looking like an asshat.

The internet has made it pretty impossible to be ignorant unless you wish to remain so.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:02 PM
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Let me clarify my clarification - 'cause I wasn't specific enough. I'm surprised any member of the NPC or member of what I guess you can call non-BGLO or multi-cultural fraternities isn't at least aware of other NPC members - in this case, I was responding to bowsandtoes. I wouldn't expect the BGLOs or multicultural groups to know the members of the NPC, or study them as a part of pledging or intake. Kudos to them if they did, or for those of you who have picked up information on GC. I've certainly learned a great deal about non-NPC sororities here - rule #1 - DON'T ASK ABOUT INTAKE.

And I was surprised when ladygreek said other NPHC groups don't study the other 8 - maybe I wasn't clear about that. Sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing NPHC groups for not knowing about NPC - that isn't what I meant to convey.
"Study" is where the miscommunication may be.

In general, we are expected to know basic info about other NPHC organizations but we don't "study" these organizations.

This goes back to understanding the history behind the NPHC. I don't think an aspirant can appreciate Delta's history and worth without knowing a certain amount of information about the other NPHC orgs (and a little info on Greek Life, in general). Just like I believe an aspirant who is ignorant to certain aspects of American history can't place many of Delta's accomplishments within the proper contexts.

You'd be hard pressed to come across an aspirant who doesn't know some basic info on NPHC orgs because even before the internet, aspirants were expected to be inquisitive and wide-eyed.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:05 PM
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Gotcha. Part of my confusion was that I thought it would be very difficult to understand the history of a BGLO without some reference to the other groups - but now I think I've got it.

Slight change of focus - is there an appreciable difference in north and south chapters of BGLOs?
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:09 PM
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Slight change of focus - is there an appreciable difference in north and south chapters of BGLOs?
No.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:14 PM
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Slight change of focus - is there an appreciable difference in north and south chapters of BGLOs?
Not that I have noticed.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:08 PM
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"Study" is where the miscommunication may be.

In general, we are expected to know basic info about other NPHC organizations but we don't "study" these organizations.

This goes back to understanding the history behind the NPHC. I don't think an aspirant can appreciate Delta's history and worth without knowing a certain amount of information about the other NPHC orgs (and a little info on Greek Life, in general). Just like I believe an aspirant who is ignorant to certain aspects of American history can't place many of Delta's accomplishments within the proper contexts.

You'd be hard pressed to come across an aspirant who doesn't know some basic info on NPHC orgs because even before the internet, aspirants were expected to be inquisitive and wide-eyed.

Yes..this makes sense. It would be a waste of time for anyone to spend hours learning everything there is to know about an org they will never be a part of.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:11 PM
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Bigger isn't better
Taller isn't braver
Stronger isn't always wise

Smaller isn't necessarily the lesser
Guts can come in any size

Lady luck can favor
Just a little shaver
Over one who's 6-foot-3

Brains in any tussle
Mop the floor with muscle
Bet your life I'm glad I'm me

(Chorus
Bigger isn't keener
Larger isn't bolder
Higher might be low inside
When you need to lean upon a friendly shoulder
Narrow's just as good as wide
See the mighty lion sittin there and crying bitten by a tiny flea
Mammoth was colossal what's he now? A fossil!
Bet your life I'm glad I'm me

What strong and hope they lag along
Get brains and heart
That handsome hunk might be a Lilliputian medley,
Proven consequently...
Though he shows his shoulders twice as big as boulders
If his brain's a tiny pea
When your in a pickle
He ain't worth a nickel
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:31 PM
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And I was surprised when ladygreek said other NPHC groups don't study the other 8 - maybe I wasn't clear about that. Sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing NPHC groups for not knowing about NPC - that isn't what I meant to convey.
Please show me where I said that, although for my org it is true. There is plenty of our own history to learn. But that is not what I typed.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:24 PM
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And I was surprised when ladygreek said other NPHC groups don't study the other 8 - maybe I wasn't clear about that. Sorry if I sounded like I was criticizing NPHC groups for not knowing about NPC - that isn't what I meant to convey.
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Please show me where I said that, although for my org it is true. There is plenty of our own history to learn. But that is not what I typed.
Nope, it's not what you typed.

One more time from the "beginning" (bolded for emphasis):


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Not with me. National name recognition means that across the nation one would hear the name and know it was a NPC sorority. That doesn't take away from an org's validity, I'm just saying that is a very broad statement to make.

I would not presume that my own sorority (or the rest of the NPHC) has national name recognition even within the Black community (note: the NPHC is not the entire Black community, rather a subset of it. ~12dn), much less out of it. And there are only nine NPHC orgs.
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I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs.

to which i replied:


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LG referenced our name recognition in the Black community as a whole, not within the NPHC community specifically.

Bottom line regarding name recognition for anyone or anything, you can't be familiar with that which you are not exposed.
are we clear now? good!
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:28 PM
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I was clear back in post 121.

And back on topic - YES. It is the heat. And the humidity. Heat and humidity.
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