GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > Greek Life
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Greek Life This forum is for various discussion topics regarding greek life. If you are posting a non-greek related message, please do so in one of the General Chat Topic forums.

» GC Stats
Members: 329,899
Threads: 115,689
Posts: 2,207,107
Welcome to our newest member, lithicwillow
» Online Users: 2,015
1 members and 2,014 guests
No Members online
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-14-2008, 10:54 AM
SWTXBelle SWTXBelle is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Land of Chaos
Posts: 9,286
Of course the NPCs don't have name recognition like, oh, say Coke. But I can't understand how any member of a NPC group, or for that matter an international/national fraternity, can remain ignorant of the orgs. If they are, it's a reflection on the individual,not the GLO.
Within the community at large I would not expect non-greeks to have any familiarity with the groups. That's one of the problems with negative information about any greek org - Joe Blow on the street thinks we are all alike, so when something bad happens we are all guilty by association.
I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.
I think membership is enhanced when you know more about your own org, and others. It helps to understand how the system evolved, and gives you an appreciation for the struggles and achievements of all the other GLOs.
__________________
Gamma Phi Beta
Courtesy is owed, respect is earned, love is given.
Proud daughter AND mother of a Gamma Phi. 3 generations of love, labor, learning and loyalty.
  #2  
Old 02-14-2008, 11:06 AM
12dn94dst 12dn94dst is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 2,431
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWTXBelle View Post
I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.
LG referenced our name recognition in the Black community as a whole, not within the NPHC community specifically.

Bottom line regarding name recognition for anyone or anything, you can't be familiar with that which you are not exposed.
__________________
But what do I know, I'm just the developer.
  #3  
Old 02-14-2008, 11:38 AM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWTXBelle View Post
I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges. Do the orgs only cover their individual org history? I know we had to learn NPC history as part of our pledgeship.
I think membership is enhanced when you know more about your own org, and others. It helps to understand how the system evolved, and gives you an appreciation for the struggles and achievements of all the other GLOs.
We were taught basic information, and respect given to, about other NPHC organizations.


If people want to know more details about other NPHC (or other) organizations they could "research" them before or after the membership intake process.
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
  #4  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:24 PM
ladygreek ladygreek is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: In the fraternal Twin Cities
Posts: 6,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWTXBelle View Post
I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs.
Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place. Very honestly, I never new much about the NPC until my sorority constitutionalized four years ago that anyone who was a member or had been a member of a NPC could not seek membership in Delta (which was caused by the increased number in recent years of those who wanted to do so.)

So I researched just who were the NPC. Between that and GC is how I have gained my knowledge of the NPC in the last four years, and I have been a member of the NPHC for 39 years. The NPC just wasn't on my radar. Again that doesn't denigrate the NPC, it just bolsters my point about national name recognition even within the total GLO--BGLOs, LGLOs, AGLOs, MCGLOs, etc.
__________________
DSQ
Born: Epsilon Xi / Zeta Chi, SIUC
Raised: Minneapolis/St. Paul Alumnae
Reaffirmed: Glen Ellyn Area Alumnae
All in the MIGHTY MIDWEST REGION!

Last edited by ladygreek; 02-14-2008 at 01:35 PM.
  #5  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:30 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladygreek View Post
Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place.
Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
  #6  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:45 PM
ladygreek ladygreek is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: In the fraternal Twin Cities
Posts: 6,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS View Post
Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.
__________________
DSQ
Born: Epsilon Xi / Zeta Chi, SIUC
Raised: Minneapolis/St. Paul Alumnae
Reaffirmed: Glen Ellyn Area Alumnae
All in the MIGHTY MIDWEST REGION!
  #7  
Old 02-14-2008, 01:59 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladygreek View Post
And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.
The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
  #8  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:04 PM
ladygreek ladygreek is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: In the fraternal Twin Cities
Posts: 6,433
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS View Post
The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.
And I am sure you played a big role in that. Again kudos.
__________________
DSQ
Born: Epsilon Xi / Zeta Chi, SIUC
Raised: Minneapolis/St. Paul Alumnae
Reaffirmed: Glen Ellyn Area Alumnae
All in the MIGHTY MIDWEST REGION!
  #9  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:07 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladygreek View Post
And I am sure you played a big role in that. Again kudos.
What is this thread about, really?
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
  #10  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:33 PM
fantASTic fantASTic is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 723
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS View Post
Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
Maybe not on all campuses and all orgs, but I would expect our new members to be familiar with the BGLOs, LGLOs and MCGLOs on our campus at the VERY least. In fact, it's included in New Member Education.

Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME? Sorry if that's not cool to ask, I'm not sure.
  #11  
Old 02-14-2008, 02:57 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by fantASTic View Post
Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME?
No.

That information was accessible through everyday Greek Life and campus interactions, since racial and ethnic minorities and NPHC orgs were a greatly outnumbered minority. So people who didn't live in a bubble pick this information on NPC/IFC up because it was everywhere.
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
  #12  
Old 02-14-2008, 05:39 PM
SWTXBelle SWTXBelle is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Land of Chaos
Posts: 9,286
Quote - Why would we be taught about other GLOs - unquote



There you go - because you said "other GLOs", not "NPC", I read it to include other NPHC GLOs, and you've now confirmed that it is true, at least for your sorority.
__________________
Gamma Phi Beta
Courtesy is owed, respect is earned, love is given.
Proud daughter AND mother of a Gamma Phi. 3 generations of love, labor, learning and loyalty.

Last edited by SWTXBelle; 02-14-2008 at 09:29 PM.
  #13  
Old 02-14-2008, 07:37 PM
DSTRen13 DSTRen13 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,343
Quote:
Originally Posted by SWTXBelle View Post
Quote - Why would we be taught about other GLOs - unquote



There you go - because you said "other GLOs", not "NPC", I read it to include other NPHC GLOs, and you've now confirmed that it is true, at least for your sorority.
It's an intake vs. rush thing --- NPC/IFC "potential new members" learn about other groups ONCE they choose an org, NPHC interests learn about other groups BEFORE they choose an org to pursue.

It would be pointless to spend a lot of time going over this material; everyone should already know the basic public information of every NPHC group beforehand, so spend the time learning more indepth about your org.
__________________
Delta Sigma Theta "But if she wears the Delta symbol, then her first love is D-S-T ..."
Omega Phi Alpha "Blue like the colors of night and day, gold like the sun's bright shining ray ..."
  #14  
Old 02-14-2008, 03:04 PM
Ilaria Ame Ilaria Ame is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS View Post
Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.
  #15  
Old 02-14-2008, 03:07 PM
DSTCHAOS DSTCHAOS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Down the street
Posts: 9,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilaria Ame View Post
this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.
That's the context in which you all did this.
__________________
Always my fav LL song. Sorry, T La Rock, LL killed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5NCQ...eature=related
Pebbles and Babyface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl-paDdmVMU
Deele "Two Occasions" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvaB...eature=related
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Sorority Life" - 2nd season & new show "Fraternity Life" SATX*APhi Greek Life 52 12-05-2007 05:01 PM
Greek Life at "New Ivies" (as Newsweek calls them) exlurker Greek Life 39 08-27-2006 09:57 AM
Vanderbilt and "Marketing" Greek Life to Freshmen exlurker Recruitment 0 09-06-2005 02:15 AM
"Barbie" thread in Greek Life SmartBlondeGPhB Gamma Phi Beta 0 02-27-2004 02:40 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.