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Old 02-14-2008, 01:24 PM
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I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs.
Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place. Very honestly, I never new much about the NPC until my sorority constitutionalized four years ago that anyone who was a member or had been a member of a NPC could not seek membership in Delta (which was caused by the increased number in recent years of those who wanted to do so.)

So I researched just who were the NPC. Between that and GC is how I have gained my knowledge of the NPC in the last four years, and I have been a member of the NPHC for 39 years. The NPC just wasn't on my radar. Again that doesn't denigrate the NPC, it just bolsters my point about national name recognition even within the total GLO--BGLOs, LGLOs, AGLOs, MCGLOs, etc.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:30 PM
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Why would be taught about other GLOs? Let's not get into the reason why BGLOs were formed in the first place.
Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:45 PM
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Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:59 PM
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And I would venture to say that your campus was more progressive than most--kudos.
The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:04 PM
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The "campus" wasn't progressive but a few individuals got along really well and decided to make (organization and chapter-specific) NPC-NPHC social and service connections.
And I am sure you played a big role in that. Again kudos.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:07 PM
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And I am sure you played a big role in that. Again kudos.
What is this thread about, really?
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:25 PM
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I'm kinda surprised, Ladygreek, that NPHC members wouldn't be up to speed about other member GLOs. Heck, I'm familiar with all 9, and they were not all at either of my colleges.
I'm not trying to nit pic, but it isn't that har to know the orgs of the NPHC as there are only 9 and of those 9 only 4 are Sororities.

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No man is an island, and no NPC exists alone.
Would I be reaching too far to say that ANY NPHC org stands alone? I don't think so.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:33 PM
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Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.
Maybe not on all campuses and all orgs, but I would expect our new members to be familiar with the BGLOs, LGLOs and MCGLOs on our campus at the VERY least. In fact, it's included in New Member Education.

Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME? Sorry if that's not cool to ask, I'm not sure.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:57 PM
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Are the NPCs/IFCs on your campus included in your NME?
No.

That information was accessible through everyday Greek Life and campus interactions, since racial and ethnic minorities and NPHC orgs were a greatly outnumbered minority. So people who didn't live in a bubble pick this information on NPC/IFC up because it was everywhere.
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:39 PM
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Quote - Why would we be taught about other GLOs - unquote



There you go - because you said "other GLOs", not "NPC", I read it to include other NPHC GLOs, and you've now confirmed that it is true, at least for your sorority.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:37 PM
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There you go - because you said "other GLOs", not "NPC", I read it to include other NPHC GLOs, and you've now confirmed that it is true, at least for your sorority.
It's an intake vs. rush thing --- NPC/IFC "potential new members" learn about other groups ONCE they choose an org, NPHC interests learn about other groups BEFORE they choose an org to pursue.

It would be pointless to spend a lot of time going over this material; everyone should already know the basic public information of every NPHC group beforehand, so spend the time learning more indepth about your org.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:04 PM
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Yep.

Are all GLOs taught about BGLOs, LGLOs, and MCGLOs? If not, then what's the point of acting surprised that BGLOs don't formally teach about all GLOs?

Those of us who exist on campuses with GLOs have the opportunity to learn about GLOs, collaborate on programs, and work closely together. That's what we did and that's more than enough.

this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:07 PM
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this is only speaking for us, and an interjection, not a debate. we were asked to research and make presentations on the NPC, NPHC, and IFC, as well as all the other orgs in the MGC. it wasn't something we had to memorize, and i certainly couldn't name all 26 NPC orgs off the top of my head or anything like that, but as a newer organization, our founders rightly felt it was nessessary for us to be aware of where we come from and be knowledgeable about other orgs. however, charter lines are required to do this, chapter lines are only reccomended.
That's the context in which you all did this.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:16 PM
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That's the context in which you all did this.

yeah, that's what i meant when i said i wasn't debating. lol, it would be pretty silly for me to be like "Well, we do it, so why don't ya'll???" i understand why we did it and i feel it was very enlightened of our founders to realize that we had to be twice as knowledgeable to get half the respect coming up as a new org. i certainly wouldn't be offended if you asked me general information like "what are your colors? what year were you founded?" because it's NOT general information to most people! but for us, we need to KNOW every else's facts without a doubt or we look like we don't respect our predecessors enough to find out.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:23 PM
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yeah, that's what i meant when i said i wasn't debating. lol, it would be pretty silly for me to be like "Well, we do it, so why don't ya'll???" i understand why we did it and i feel it was very enlightened of our founders to realize that we had to be twice as knowledgeable to get half the respect coming up as a new org. i certainly wouldn't be offended if you asked me general information like "what are your colors? what year were you founded?" because it's NOT general information to most people! but for us, we need to KNOW every else's facts without a doubt or we look like we don't respect our predecessors enough to find out.
Well, that's not where I was going with that. LOL.

I think your approach is an excellent one. When we incorporate such an approach it is on a chapter basis, and not uniform across chapters, because the context doesn't always warrant that.

For instance, there are tons of chapters that exist on HBCUs so the exposure to nonBGLO fraternities and sororities would be limited to those orgs that have chapters at HBCUs, which only applies to a few fraternities and sororities.
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