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01-17-2008, 11:07 PM
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Well, I don't know some folks are upset when they call themselves "Nappy", like it's a cute thing to do. Wow, if one knew the history behind that word, the KKK would have no reason to march on MLK day--their job is done! Now that's real...
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01-18-2008, 01:05 AM
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Well, I don't know some folks are upset when they call themselves "Nappy", like it's a cute thing to do. Wow, if one knew the history behind that word, the KKK would have no reason to march on MLK day--their job is done! Now that's real...
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Nappy doesn't strike me as a negative term because that is a term used to describe the texture of my hair. African-Americans have been taught to dislike their hair because it doesn't stand up to "European standards of beauty". We've been conditioned to "tame" it and keep it's natural kinks and coils hidden through chemical processing. No disrespect to those who chemically process their hair, I just have different views. I also have a pretty decent grasp on my African-American history as well. Don't count the high schooler out just yet, she's gained a plethora of knowledge despite this horrid public school system
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01-18-2008, 01:38 AM
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Yep.
Minorities groups take back words all the time and reassign definitions.
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That's what I'm saying! How come these reassigned definition words in reference to AA's seem to start with "N"?
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Like the old t-shirts say: I'm happy to be nappy. It has never been a pejorative in my family or in my community.
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More like Stevie Wonder's song as he refers to "nappy headed boy"? So we really shouldn't be angry with Imus for what he said regarding women, some who are of African descent?
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Nappy doesn't strike me as a negative term because that is a term used to describe the texture of my hair. African-Americans have been taught to dislike their hair because it doesn't stand up to "European standards of beauty". We've been conditioned to "tame" it and keep it's natural kinks and coils hidden through chemical processing. No disrespect to those who chemically process their hair, I just have different views. I also have a pretty decent grasp on my African-American history as well. Don't count the high schooler out just yet, she's gained a plethora of knowledge despite this horrid public school system 
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Your opinions stated here conflicts your comments made in other threads, there is a dichotomy of caring what the KKK does and how you have chosen to present yourself to my Sorority on GC. Now, if you think you will be able to impress my sorors on Howard's campus with the way you have chosen to present yourself, be my guest. Let us hope you are as intelligent as you think you are...
The word "nappy" comes from a certain derivation to describe Africans who were enslaved. The true designs and shapes of hair from Africans transcend the nascent truth of one's one self-discovery of his or her "roots". Because there was strong salt water interaction on the slave ships the true coiffure was mangled. Then the heads were shaved as well as jewelery and other accouterments of the "savage" nature... So when the kid"napper" and enslaver choose to define your nascent self, know where it comes from and why...
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01-18-2008, 01:49 AM
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That's what I'm saying! How come these reassigned definition words in reference to AA's seem to start with "N"?
More like Stevie Wonder's song as he refers to "nappy headed boy"? So we really shouldn't be angry with Imus for what he said regarding women, some who are of African descent?
Your opinions stated here conflicts your comments made in other threads, there is a dichotomy of caring what the KKK does and how you have chosen to present yourself to my Sorority on GC. Now, if you think you will be able to impress my sorors on Howard's campus with the way you have chosen to present yourself, be my guest. Let us hope you are as intelligent as you think you are...
The word "nappy" comes from a certain derivation to describe Africans who were enslaved. The true designs and shapes of hair from Africans transcend the nascent truth of one's one self-discovery of his or her "roots". Because there was strong salt water interaction on the slave ships the true coiffure was mangled. Then the heads were shaved as well as jewelery and other accouterments of the "savage" nature... So when the kid"napper" and enslaver choose to define your nascent self, know where it comes from and why...
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Admittidly, didn't know that last piece of information, learn something new everyday. But I'm still confident that I haven't contradicted myself in previous threads. I maintain that KKK is wrong for their pursuit of "white supremacy" and that their actions, as usual, are in dissonance with I beleive in. The fact that I am not pained over the term nappy, is still the same despite how it is viewed by the KKK themselves or otherwise.
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01-18-2008, 02:03 AM
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But I'm still confident that I haven't contradicted myself in previous threads. I maintain that KKK is wrong for their pursuit of "white supremacy" and that their actions, as usual, are in dissonance with I beleive in. The fact that I am not pained over the term nappy, is still the same despite how it is viewed by the KKK themselves or otherwise.
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There will 2 worlds you will have to decide: one that says just as you are and how your think of yourself is cool; and one that says you much transcend beyond all concepts of oneself. Remember, "not being pained" when a bigoted white male calls you the same... That is what the rappers say with the "N-word" currently...
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01-18-2008, 05:12 PM
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That's what I'm saying! How come these reassigned definition words in reference to AA's seem to start with "N"?
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Huh?
Whatever the case, it's okay for everyone to have opinions of the words being taken back. That doesn't mean that your opinion will matter in the grander scheme of things.
Similar to how there's a such thing as "queer studies" and a group called pinkpistols uses "f--" in some of their stuff. But the reference to "queer" and "f--" offends some homosexuals and nonhomosexuals because of their history. That doesn't mean those two words will stop being taken back and used by members of the group in question. That also doesn't mean that it becomes okay if nonhomosexuals begin to use those two words in a derogatory fashion.
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01-18-2008, 08:57 PM
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Huh?
Whatever the case, it's okay for everyone to have opinions of the words being taken back. That doesn't mean that your opinion will matter in the grander scheme of things.
Similar to how there's a such thing as "queer studies" and a group called pinkpistols uses "f--" in some of their stuff. But the reference to "queer" and "f--" offends some homosexuals and nonhomosexuals because of their history. That doesn't mean those two words will stop being taken back and used by members of the group in question. That also doesn't mean that it becomes okay if nonhomosexuals begin to use those two words in a derogatory fashion.
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All I care about is right now is being of African descent and young people coming up through the world having relativitist thinking without much consideration or care as to how it came to be that way.
It all seems copasetic until some lunatic starts calling a group of "us" in a tirade like Micheal Richards or some random smoked out reggae fan says he discovered ganga and do a "King" move on us making quadrillions.
Connotative definitions operate in a real time context. What one generation finds altruistic is later found to be dull then either good or evil.
Now many of us are old enough and strong enough to mutter through the mire and tell this young lady here is what you are going to face in real life or you all can curse me out and make yourselves feel better because you like the debase me. Either way, I have not lied. You look at all her posts and then make your decisions as to what to say to this child...
Sure, she could problem weather her own storms, that is a part of growing up, at the same time, we who have been here awhile have seen a shift in behavior and there is a reason.
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01-18-2008, 09:15 PM
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All I care about is right now is being of African descent and young people coming up through the world having relativitist thinking without much consideration or care as to how it came to be that way.
It all seems copasetic until some lunatic starts calling a group of "us" in a tirade like Micheal Richards or some random smoked out reggae fan says he discovered ganga and do a "King" move on us making quadrillions.
Connotative definitions operate in a real time context. What one generation finds altruistic is later found to be dull then either good or evil.
Now many of us are old enough and strong enough to mutter through the mire and tell this young lady here is what you are going to face in real life or you all can curse me out and make yourselves feel better because you like the debase me. Either way, I have not lied. You look at all her posts and then make your decisions as to what to say to this child...
Sure, she could problem weather her own storms, that is a part of growing up, at the same time, we who have been here awhile have seen a shift in behavior and there is a reason.
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What in the hot-as-hell are you typing about?
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01-18-2008, 09:21 PM
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What in the hot-as-hell are you typing about?
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What is your problem?
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