I lost my son KAP Jr.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Then I must also be lying to the Nupes in my chapter, who know the story from start to finish and met the lady personally.

I find it ironic that the same person who was compelled to confirm my membership in Kappa wouldn't think to confirm my story with other NUPES I shared it with, particularly ones in my chapter.

Your chapter is not the most credible source considering they initiated you.

[KAPital PHINUst]

To those who have supported me, I continue to thank you.

To those who say I am lying: After being told I was responsible for the baby's death by a cousin of hers, HOW DARE YOU accuse me of lying, especially considering the news was directed to my fellow Nupes and not at any of you! That is very cruel of you to even think that. Bottom line, it is NOT your place to accuse me of anything, because the news was not addressed to you. Some of you are clearly out of line and totally out of order!!

Shame on you!!

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

To those who have supported me, I continue to thank you.

To those who say I am lying: After being told I was responsible for the baby's death by a cousin of hers, HOW DARE YOU accuse me of lying!! That is very cruel of you to even think that.

Shame on you!!

Because you have lied before. And all we know is what YOU tell us. Don't forget how suspicious everyone was on PP when you broke the "story."

I am going to chalk all of this up to your Asperger Syndrome. You even said yourself it is what causes your behavior.

That brings up another point. As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world? There is a genetic disposition especially connected to the father.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Because you have lied before *edited for brevity*

LG, you are in the KAPPA forum responding to posts addressed to KAPPAS!! You are in NO position to accuse any brother of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity of anything, especially since the thread wasn't directed to you to begin with.

That brings up another point. As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world? There is a genetic disposition especially connected to the father.

I won't even dignify that with an answer, especially considering how incredibly pompous and arrogant that sounded

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

LG, you are in the KAPPA forum responding to posts addressed to KAPPAS!! You are in NO position to accuse any brother of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity of anything, especially since the thread wasn't directed to you to begin with.



I won't even dignify that with an answer, especially considering how incredibly pompous and arrogant that sounded

Then when you created the thread you should have said this is directed to Kappas only. You didn't seem to have a problem with non-Kappas offereing you sympathy even though the thread wasn't directed to them.

And I am in a position to say whatever I want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

Arrogant and pompous? Oh that's right--misuse of words, etc.

Um, notice the lack of _____s in this thread.

[Marie]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

And I am in a position to say whatever I want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

Thank You!!!!! This is the internet...no one here feels inclined to be 'in line' or 'in their place'. This is why ppl need to stop trying to make real friendships/bonds on the net. Keep your business to yourself and share your life w/real ppl that you actually know...otherwise you are just opening yourself up to ridicule and judgment from ppl who neither know nor care about you.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Marie

Thank You!!!!! This is the internet...no one here feels inclined to be 'in line' or 'in their place'.

GC is a moderated forum for a reason: to maintain order and decorum.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

LG, you are in the KAPPA forum responding to posts addressed to KAPPAS!! You are in NO position to accuse any brother of Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity of anything, especially since the thread wasn't directed to you to begin with.

Then go find a Kappa private board and post it there. GC isn't private.

I won't even dignify that with an answer, especially considering how incredibly pompous and arrogant that sounded

I happen to think that it's an extremely valid question, and that it deserves an answer.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

That brings up another point. As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world? There is a genetic disposition especially connected to the father.

I'm curious about your source for that ladygreek. Not that I'm challenging you -- it just is more specific than anything I've seen. I know it seems clear that there are genetic components to AS, and I know that AS is more commonly diagnosed in males. But I haven't seen any research specifically linking AS to the father's side genetically.

I will agree with RM, though -- I think the question is out of line. People risk passing along genetic predispositions all the time -- why suggest that men with AS shouldn't even "consider" having kids? It's not like AS is a terminal illness or debilitating birth defect. As the father of an Asperger's kid, I can assure you that I think the world is better off because he's in it, and had we known before he was born that he would have AS, it wouldn't have made any difference, except that we would have learned more about it sooner. Yes, he faces some challenges that most other kids don't have to deal with, but he brings some wonderful gifts and perspectives that most other kids don't as well.

Perhaps someone with AS would consider bring a child into the world because they know that it's not the end of the world to have AS. Besides, dad will know how it feels and can help the kid learn what he needs to know.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I'm curious about your source for that ladygreek. Not that I'm challenging you -- it just is more specific than anything I've seen. I know it seems clear that there are genetic components to AS, and I know that AS is more commonly diagnosed in males. But I haven't seen any research specifically linking AS to the father's side genetically.

what I said has to do with the fact that you stated--it is more commonly diagnosed in males, thus there is a greater chance of the link being the father.

And please don't personalize this discussion. You are comparing apples to oranges here.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

what I said has to do with the fact that you stated--it is more commonly diagnosed in males, thus there is a greater chance of the link being the father.

And please don't personalize this discussion. You are comparing apples to oranges here.

I think you're the one comparing apples to oranges. Just because it's more commonly diagnosed in males =/= "a genetic disposition connected to the father." Baldness occurs most often in males, but it's a genetic trait passed down through the mother.

And I'm sorry if you think I'm personalising this discussion. I realize that there are other dynamics at play in this particular thread and with RM. Still, though, I stand by what I said. I think the question you asked -- "As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world?" -- was out of line and bordered on offensive. And as I think you would agree, we are both in a position to say whatever we want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

[Marie]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I realize that there are other dynamics at play in this particular thread and with RM.

Just wanted to quote the important part of that post.



**ok, really I'm going to get some work done now**

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think you're the one comparing apples to oranges. Just because it's more commonly diagnosed in males =/= "a genetic disposition connected to the father." Baldness occurs most often in males, but it's a genetic trait passed down through the mother.

And I'm sorry if you think I'm personalising this discussion. I realize that there are other dynamics at play in this particular thread and with RM. Still, though, I stand by what I said. I think the question you asked -- "As a person with AS why would you even consider bringing a child into the world?" -- was out of line and bordered on offensive. And as I think you would agree, we are both in a position to say whatever we want to say on a message board that is open to the public.

To your first sentence: while I know Wiki is not always the best source, many times it is. This is the statement I read there: Asperger described common symptoms among his patients' family members, especially fathers, and research supports this observation and suggests a genetic contribution to Asperger syndrome.

To your second paragraph: so noted.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I realize that there are other dynamics at play in this particular thread and with RM.

Yes, indeed there is. And the biggest one is that they need to stop coming into my org's forum being intentionally disruptive and inflammatory and to take their axe-grinding antics somewhere else.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

And please don't personalize this discussion. You are comparing apples to oranges here.

LG you personalized this discussion when you came in here casting aspersions on my character and being intentionally offensive. Let's not enforce double standards, ok?