Old School Sesame Street Will Warp Your Child!!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Not to mention Speedy Gonzalez. Was that looney toons or warner bros. Oh well.

My Mexican husband thinks Speedy Gonzalez is hilarious. Arriba, Arriba, Andele, Andele!!!

[DaffyKD]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Doh! Good one. I did love the Cap'n too.

I'll send you my extra coupons for Ben-Gay and orthopedic hose later...

Captain Kangaroo, Mr. Greenjeans, Mr. Bunny, and Mr. Moose, oh those were the days!!! Oh, and remember the magic window??

DaffyKD

[33girl]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I, for one, applaud your early descent into curmudgeonry - we'll sit around a $5 Pai Gow table, drink whiskey and water, and bitch about the rain and traffic . . . all by age 30(ish)!

Seriously though, Sesame Street sucks for kids, and kind of always has - Blue's Clues, as inane and tottering as it seems, is like 30x better for kids' learning and parents' eyes glazing over on Vicodin.

Yeah, I've read The Tipping Point and all the stuff about how kids learned so much more from Blue's than Sesame Street - at that age, probably true. But the point of the story isn't that they're saying these early episodes are adults only now because of the format. Sesame Street still has lots of fast action and jumping from thing to thing. It's because OMG OSCAR WAS KIND OF AN ASSHOLE. People forget, that show wasn't created for upper class suburban kids whose parents have a lot of time to spend with them and who would probably learn letters and numbers on their own. It was created for inner city kids in not great circumstances to help them not to be behind when they started school. How effective that was I don't know, but I doubt that any of those kids could have related to a show that was all sunshine and nothing else.

There have always been alternatives...yeah I watched SS & Daffy Duck acting like a maniac, but I also watched Mr. Rogers and Cover to Cover. One didn't dull enjoyment of the other. I think the problem now is that people go overboard...they hear Blue's Clues is great so every show tries to be like it...and with the tons of stations made just for kids and DVDs besides, that's a lot of time to fill up, with things that are usually substandard.

And you're coming to the party late...I've been a curmudgeon since around 27 when people tried to shove Kurt Cobain down my throat as the "voice of our generation."

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

My Mexican husband thinks Speedy Gonzalez is hilarious. Arriba, Arriba, Andele, Andele!!!

That's fine for him to think that.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Ironically enough, back on the South Park Movie tip, it parodied that fact that people who don't pay attention to what their kids watch on TV will eventually grow up being bad people and that over protective parents sometimes made things even worse.

Now....did anyone here who saw this movie in the theaters see any other parents there with kids and noticed any kind of reaction when the movie got started?

Wasn't this movie rated R??? If so, why on earth would parents be surprised that there was adult content in it - cartoon or not? That has nothing to do with cartoons, that has to do with idiot parenting.

I mean get real - I don't think anyone took their 8 year old to see Fritz the Cat or Heavy Metal just because it was a cartoon - if they did they're too stupid to breathe.

As to the war cartoons, that isn't any different than every other villain on prime time nowadays being Middle Eastern. Propaganda is propaganda, blatant or subtle. Like I said, none of those cartoons from WWII were EVER shown on Saturday morning TV.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Now....did anyone here who saw this movie in the theaters see any other parents there with kids and noticed any kind of reaction when the movie got started?

I didn't see any parents there with kids. I figured many parents don't let their children see South Park on TV let alone in the theater.


Family Guy and Boondocks aren't written for kids. The creator and writers know that. If some kids watch and find it funny, fine, but that's not the target audience.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Heavy Metal

Best.Animated.Movie.EVERRRRRRRRR!!!!

Originally Posted by 33girl

As to the war cartoons, that isn't any different than every other villain on prime time nowadays being Middle Eastern.

That answers my previous question. Even before 9/11 we saw villains in more recent cartoons being darker and having foreign accents.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Wasn't this movie rated R??? If so, why on earth would parents be surprised that there was adult content in it - cartoon or not? That has nothing to do with cartoons, that has to do with idiot parenting.

I mean get real - I don't think anyone took their 8 year old to see Fritz the Cat or Heavy Metal just because it was a cartoon - if they did they're too stupid to breathe.

As to the war cartoons, that isn't any different than every other villain on prime time nowadays being Middle Eastern. Propaganda is propaganda, blatant or subtle. Like I said, none of those cartoons from WWII were EVER shown on Saturday morning TV.

33girl...but see that is JUST what I am saying...when I went I saw at least 3 parents (no joke!) get up and take thier kids out and I too wondered if they knew what they were taking thier kids to see

That was the point of the movie also...parents NEED to really monitor what they let entertain thier kids, especially if a parent is not there to monitor them anyway.


And yes DSTCHAOS on your point about Family Guy...what I do find disturbing however is that now in my area it comes on around 6pm on local stations ( and yes I know someone will argue about it doesn't matter what time it comes on kids will watch and blah blah blah) and really, parents should be concerned that it's not prime time any more when syndication pretty much sets it's own times when it comes on.


Moving on another tangent...now they have to put ratings on video games....and from what I have seen (Grand Theft Auto not withstanding) they need to!


Bottom line, is that there are still a lot of people that believe that just because it's animated or a 'video game' that it's for the kids and that can't be so much further away from the truth.

Japanese anime has to be watered down for American audiences because of how graphic they are in nature and even still most are still extra violent when they air... I won't let my nephew watch Power Rangers nor Bleach or Blood because most of that I have seen the original uncut versions and I don't care if he is 6 and his mommy and daddy let him watch....he won't in my house!!

Most of the anime out there still has a lot of Adult situations and plots that kids under certain ages shouldn't be allowed to get exposed to.

...and let's not even get into hentai....

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Tom & Jerry, on the other hand, I do remember a few of those - they had a "mammy" type housekeeper, who of course was seen only from the waist down (cat's-eye level).

I remember that.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Gosh! I remember seeing a lot of those Warner cartoons when I was little. I never really noticed. I was just watching a cartoon at the time. I didn't understand a "Mammy" or the "slow" negro concepts (and my parents never made any attempt to stop me from seeing them) that I do now. I thought it was entertaining and goofy.
I guess I'd have to be able to watch them again to see if I still feel that way...Anyways, I'm trying to figure out what was so awful about SS. It's SS! It's FOR kids!

Folks are always trying to claim that back in the day was sooo great and sooo wholesome. I guess now they're seeing that they got played. Now don't that beat all...

[Animate]

I do agree that the early Looney Tunes stuff had its racist stuff in it, but like others said, it was the times. I'm speaking primarily of the stuff I saw from 82 to roughly 95. As an adult you can see the undertones but as a kid you just see a cartoon. Its like how kids love Shrek but the adults get all the jokes.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Wasn't this movie rated R???

It was and that movie made such big headlines when it came out because of all the offensive material that movie theaters went overboard in making sure children under 17 were not admitted. At all the theaters by me, they checked your ID when buying the tickets, checked your ID again when you walked into the theater and then had two security guards standing outside the theater to make sure that nobody snuck in. I remember getting up to use the restroom and having to do a security check when I walked back in. And the security guards sat there and scrutinized my ID because I was only 18 at the time and they thought my ID was fake. Ridiculous....it was just a damn movie.

Anyway, it's funny what I never saw as a kid and now understand as an adult. There was a Disney cartoon I saw a few months ago (can't remember which one) that I hadn't seen since I was a kid. I remember thinking, "Oh wow...there's a lot of innuendo in this movie!" but I never picked up on it as a kid.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by ZTAngel

It was and that movie made such big headlines when it came out because of all the offensive material that movie theaters went overboard in making sure children under 17 were not admitted. At all the theaters by me, they checked your ID when buying the tickets, checked your ID again when you walked into the theater and then had two security guards standing outside the theater to make sure that nobody snuck in. I remember getting up to use the restroom and having to do a security check when I walked back in. And the security guards sat there and scrutinized my ID because I was only 18 at the time and they thought my ID was fake. Ridiculous....it was just a damn movie.

I got in, and I was 16. And I still get carded NOW for R-Rated movies (true story - the lady at Walmart wouldn't sell me Terminator 3 because I didn't bring my ID). That will be forever known as the "Zack Morris" date. My friend set me up with that one - and he showed up wearing penny loafers, faded jeans, a sweatervest and had poufy blond hair - in 1999. If he would have made one Saved By the Bell reference, I would have lost it.

[nikki1920]

When I went to see SP in the theater with a girlfriend, we sat behind a nine year old and his older brother. If you've seen SP the movie, you know there is a bit in there that involves a dildo. There is an assumed sexual relationship between Satan and Saddam. We were 20 something at the time, and could understand what the references meant, but to hear a 9 year old ask, "What is that? Why does he have it under the covers?" was a bit disconcerting.

And my first question: WHAT THE HELL WAS A NINE YEAR OLD DOING IN AN R RATED MOVIE?? And South Park at that.

There are some cartoons that my daughter was not allowed to watch.

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

I think some people don't bother finding out about a movie before they go see it. When my friend and I went to see "Good Luck Chuck", there were these two little old ladies that sat down next to us. As soon as they came in and sat down, I thought "Do they know what this movie is about? Do they realize it's supposed to be raunchy and nudity-filled? I bet they're totally going to end up walking out of this." And sure enough, as soon as the montage of sex scenes started, they left the theater.