Hazing

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

He pledged the traditional way up to when the national ceremony took place. After the ceremony we weren't done pledging that line, they still had 8 weeks to go (underground). This guy was done after nationals came down to do the ceremony. He didn't even get the right meanings to the secrets of the fraternity, because we never told them until we decided to cross them. Nationals is nationals, we weren't on that program. We crossed 4 guys, it would have been 5 but he chose not to continue with the pledge process. The funny thing about it is nationals left it up to the undergrad brothers (us) to tell that line what everything on the shield and what Phi Nu Pi meant. Well, we told them, but it wasn't what it meant. We gave them all the wrong info because they still had to pledge 8 more weeks before they were accepted into the fraternity the right way. So I'm assuming he still doesn't know what Phi Nu Pi means, nor any secrets. Any Nupe he talks with might challenge him, and he will know nothing.

Let me get this straight. The chapter required 8 more weeks of "underground" pledging after these guys had already been initiated per the national ceremony? And after the national initation ceremony, the chapter lied to the newly initiated about fraternity symbols and secrets and withheld the correct information until these guys had completed the chapter's additional 8 weeks?

Wow.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Let me get this straight. The chapter required 8 more weeks of "underground" pledging after these guys had already been initiated per the national ceremony? And after the national initation ceremony, the chapter lied to the newly initiated about fraternity symbols and secrets and withheld the correct information until these guys had completed the chapter's additional 8 weeks?

Wow.

But it was tradition!!

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

But it was tradition!!

I wish it was still like that.

[Drolefille]

Yes well when lying to national headquarters comes back in style, do let me know.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yes well when lying to national headquarters comes back in style, do let me know.

Hey, a chapter's gotta do what a chapter's gotta do.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I wish it was still like that.

Again, wow.

So you taught pledges to respect the fraternity by disrespecting the fraternity yourselves? And that was a good thing?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Again, wow.

So you taught pledges to respect the fraternity by disrespecting the fraternity yourselves? And that was a good thing?

No, I mean I wish pledging was still done above ground like it was back in the day.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

No, I mean I wish pledging was still done above ground like it was back in the day.

But you still lied to your HQ. Even "back in the day"

[PrettyBoy]

This guy did everything he could to get in. When I say everything, I mean everything. Sometimes when a potential is not accepted, but does other things to force himself in, to me is wrong and shouldn't be a member.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Let me get this straight. The chapter required 8 more weeks of "underground" pledging after these guys had already been initiated per the national ceremony? And after the national initation ceremony, the chapter lied to the newly initiated about fraternity symbols and secrets and withheld the correct information until these guys had completed the chapter's additional 8 weeks?

Wow.

You got it. My chapter is a part of the "Bloody Triangle". Greeks pledge the traditional way there. I'm not sure how things are done now but back then it wasn't only hard to get picked but once you were picked, it was that much harder to make it through the pledge process. When I went to the interest meeting for the 1st time there were so many interests, that they had to use two rooms. Only 8 of us got picked to pledge, two dropped out, and 6 of us made it. 16 weeks of pledging. One guy quit 2 weeks before we were initiated into the fraternity. We started pledging on Jan 7th. and were initiated Apr 8th @ 2:26 am.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

You got it. My chapter is a part of the "Bloody Triangle". Greeks pledge the traditional way there. I'm not sure how things are done now but back then it wasn't only hard to get picked but once you were picked, it was that much harder to make it through the pledge process. When I went to the interest meeting for the 1st time there were so many interests, that they had to use two rooms. Only 8 of us got picked to pledge, two dropped out, and 6 of us made it. 16 weeks of pledging. One guy quit 2 weeks before we were initiated into the fraternity. We started pledging on Jan 7th. and were initiated Apr 8th @ 2:26 am.

[ToastAtTemple]

After watching the evening news and listening to our White House and nom for AG tell us what is and what isn't legal when it comes to getting results, and they are saying its ok so why can't we do it????

"Mr. head of discipline committee we weren't Hazing our pledges. I swear!! We were just submitting them to sleep deprivation, and water boarding. There cant be anything wrong with that. The President says so. "

Its either really smart, or really stupid. Either way its creative.

[Kevin]

You're comparing the interrogation of terrorists to the membership process of a fraternity.

You're either trying to be facetious or you haven't thought this one through well at all.