Any ASU Greek Girls Out There? Need Advice Please

[kstar]

Originally Posted by AZMOM

Not to nitpick? Then how do you define nitpick darlin? I was born and raised in Oklahoma and we call it both. All my siblings graduated from there and they call it both. Go figure? We find more important things to nitpick over....
Thanks for the reply though.....

You're talking to a 4th generation Sooner, getting my 5th degree from the University of Oklahoma, who was also born and raised here, so you should know better than to call it Oklahoma University, unless you're from the sticks.

Also, you don't ask that question, which predisposes people to not be nice.

ps. Daughter has the g before the t, so to abbreviate it would be dgtr, not dtgr.

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by AZMOM

Lisa,
As tactfully as I know how to ask this question. Why is there such fear in asking a simple question that girls here seem terrified in answering? Is it just this forum or this the way the Greeks live? Don't ask and don't answer? This is rather shocking to me....

This has already been answered for you, not once, but twice:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I think I can speak for most GCers when I say we don't like to characterize sorority chapters - it is too easy to stereotype or to be biased. Plus, unless you are talking to a current collegian, the odds are that the opinion being offered is based on an analysis of members who aren't even there anymore. Things can change quickly in the Greek world - one or two great pledge classes can turn a chapter around.
So my advice is to have your daughter poke around here and especially read the stickies on the recruitment pages. If she visits the campus, she should try to meet some sorority members if possible. And above all else, she should try to keep an open mind as she goes through recruitment.

Originally Posted by kstar

Also, you don't ask that question, which predisposes people to not be nice.

(I bolded what you should commit to memory, but the rest of each of the above quotes are just as important.)

Its about being polite & tactful-and not asking others to speak poorly of an organization's chapters.

[texas*princess]

AZMOM -- It's really sweet of you to try to help your daughter, but you really must let her make the decision on her own.

During recruitment, she will get the chance to speak to all current sorority members about their experience in their houses and she can then make her decisions from there.

It shouldn't matter what others think about the chapters there, it should only matter what the pnm thinks. Tell her to go into recruitment with an open mind and if it's in the cards, she'll find a house to call home.

[rufio]

I go to ASU and am quite familiar with the sororities here. while each sorority has its own reputation it is completely inappropriate and unfair to divulge this information. Rush just finished up here and my brothers and i have had to refuse giving our opinions of houses to many of the new frosh we've met. we have alot of friends in different houses and it would be unfair to say don't join xyz b/c they party too much etc. etc. Let your daughter go through formal rush and decide for herself which chapters she has the best connection. I will give this advice, make sure her GPA is up, it is a big deciding factor on who gets called back here at ASU. Some friends of mine connected excellently with alot of houses but were not called back due to grades.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by rufio

I go to ASU and am quite familiar with the sororities here. while each sorority has its own reputation it is completely inappropriate and unfair to divulge this information. Rush just finished up here and my brothers and i have had to refuse giving our opinions of houses to many of the new frosh we've met. we have alot of friends in different houses and it would be unfair to say don't join xyz b/c they party too much etc. etc. Let your daughter go through formal rush and decide for herself which chapters she has the best connection. I will give this advice, make sure her GPA is up, it is a big deciding factor on who gets called back here at ASU. Some friends of mine connected excellently with alot of houses but were not called back due to grades.

Thank you for taking the high road on this issue, Rufio! It's refreshing!

[ASUADPi]

OMG what is up with people on GC lately. Seriously, maybe it's because I'm super stressed at work and way more emotional (and taking things "personally"), but WTF?

Seriously, all this mom did was come on and ask questions and the next thing she knows is she's totally getting "dissed" and "yelled at" by other members of GC. Does Barbara need to come to this thread and remind everyone of the TOS?

What is with people on GC? People have gotten so incredibly mean this recruitment season, it's downright sad.

Go ahead and flame me, yell at me, I'm used to it having been on GC so long, but why are we (GC members) attacking new GC members.

AZMOM- I pm'd you

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

OMG what is up with people on GC lately. Seriously, maybe it's because I'm super stressed at work and way more emotional (and taking things "personally"), but WTF?

Seriously, all this mom did was come on and ask questions and the next thing she knows is she's totally getting "dissed" and "yelled at" by other members of GC. Does Barbara need to come to this thread and remind everyone of the TOS?

What is with people on GC? People have gotten so incredibly mean this recruitment season, it's downright sad.

Go ahead and flame me, yell at me, I'm used to it having been on GC so long, but why are we (GC members) attacking new GC members.

AZMOM- I pm'd you

You obviously didn't read her posts attacking Dani in the Fraternity Recruitment forum. Barbara even had to clean up one of AZMom's posts.

With the exception of one or two posts, there's nothing wrong with telling the OP that questions of this nature don't get the best responses here. I've been watching this thread from the beginning and I have to admit, GCers usually known for being snarky have been playing nice and Barbara hasn't had to come in here yet.

Try and get the whole picture before you decide to come in here screaming bloody murder! And don't take your personal and emotional issues out on us. You don't want to be like some other people here. You're better than that.

[AZMOM]

OTW, I truly don't even know how to respond to your inaccurate information other than you're totally off base. You didn't read Dani's hateful, uncalled for comment to me or the fact that he set me up from the beginning with his answer. Go back and read it again. Please try to get your facts straight. So far, I have had no problems posting and don't even know who Barbara is. Speaking of which, where did you get that info. she had to clean-up one of my messages. Is she a moderator giving out that info. to this forum? If so, is that allowed?

[cutie_cat_4ever]

AZMom,

Why don't you let your daughter decide how she wants to proceed with Greek Life? Going to college is a good start to learn how to deal with real life, and it's impossible for you to hold her hands throughout the way. Let her go to recruitment and see for herself. Tell her to keep an open minded and whatever she ends up being with, it's meant to be. Only SHE would know what's good for her or not, not you. So let her make the steps and choices. You have to let her go someone you know?

And not to mention, I've seen students with controlling (not meaning to say controlling) parents end up having a hard time to get situated with college and end up rebellion, because every little thing has to be consulted with the parents and they have to obey.

I was lucky enough to have parents who let me decide, and guess what? I earned my own tuition (plus loans) and learned so much more then I could ever imagine.

I guess my whole point is, let her do the work. You probably going to inhibit her learning experience...

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by OTW

You obviously didn't read her posts attacking Dani in the Fraternity Recruitment forum. Barbara even had to clean up one of AZMom's posts.

With the exception of one or two posts, there's nothing wrong with telling the OP that questions of this nature don't get the best responses here. I've been watching this thread from the beginning and I have to admit, GCers usually known for being snarky have been playing nice and Barbara hasn't had to come in here yet.

Try and get the whole picture before you decide to come in here screaming bloody murder! And don't take your personal and emotional issues out on us. You don't want to be like some other people here. You're better than that.

This is the first post/thread (whatever) I've read from AZMom. So I don't have a clue (honestly) what you are talking about in the other thread. My reference to Barbara was based on what happened in LMV recruitment thread and how haywire that went.

I know on GC we (I think most people on GC) really do like to pride ourselves on being tolerant, but IMPO, we (GC, no individuals named here) haven't been too tolerant this recruitment season. Heck, I'll admit that last year I wasn't very tolerant of all the whining that went on from PNM's and others but I kept it to myself instead of starting a tiff online.

I don't know if people are fed up or what, but we are starting to take our, I don't know "issues" (for lack of a better word) out on each other and the OP's.

And OTW, going off what you said, I think we are all better than that. We just get caught in it.

Does any of this make sense?


OP= original poster? (blonde moment).

[AZMOM]

Thank-you ASU....Finally someone who the question was intended for an ASU student. Your answer was great and your support even better. My original ? has been misread and no matter how many times I correct it they just aren't getting it. Ladies, go back and read the original post. Where does it say anything about girls living in the sororities? It doesn't and never did. I don't give a rats ass about what the girls are like living in these sororities I want to know about the chapters. What are the fees? What are the GPA requirements? Volunteer requirements? ETC. ETC. ETC. Man, some of you ladies, not all have got to get a life. You are scaring me. lol Is this how my daughter will turn out? Wow...scary. Again, some have been incredible. Thank-you. If she turns out like you, that's awesome.
Ladies, your making a mountain out of a moe hill. Go back, Go back Go back. Read the original post.......nothing is mentioned about the girls living there. GEEZ!!!

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by AZMOM

Thank-you ASU....Finally someone who the question was intended for an ASU student. Your answer was great and your support even better. My original ? has been misread and no matter how many times I correct it they just aren't getting it. Ladies, go back and read the original post. Where does it say anything about girls living in the sororities? It doesn't and never did. I don't give a rats ass about what the girls are like living in these sororities I want to know about the chapters. What are the fees? What are the GPA requirements? Volunteer requirements? ETC. ETC. ETC. Man, some of you ladies, not all have got to get a life. You are scaring me. lol Is this how my daughter will turn out? Wow...scary. Again, some have been incredible. Thank-you. If she turns out like you, that's awesome.
Ladies, your making a mountain out of a moe hill. Go back, Go back Go back. Read the original post.......nothing is mentioned about the girls living there. GEEZ!!!

Nope, but I fear your daughter will turn out to be like you ..

Opps.. I'm j/k

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by AZMOM

So please, if you don't mind, what's your own personal take good and bad(yes, there's always the good w/the bad)with each Sorority?

Best of luck to your daughter. I would not have inferred you were inquiring about GPA requirements, philanthropy, dues and socials from the question "What's your own personal take ... with each sorority?" I think any reasonable person would infer you were asking ASU students and alumni about their personal experiences with the sororities. And personal experiences with the sororities would likely be inferred as personal interactions with members, as the average person really isn't paying attention to other sororities' dues and GPA and volunteer requirements.

So from that, I don't see how the original question you posted was misread. Most of the posters who responded gave an answer that any reasonable person would give, whether they are an ASU student, a student at OU, Duke, an alum or a parent of a member. I regret that you feel you have been treated poorly, but the recommendation that we "need to get a life" is a bit out of line. I do take offense to that and so would many others.

Originally Posted by AZMOM

My original ? has been misread and no matter how many times I correct it they just aren't getting it. Ladies, go back and read the original post. Where does it say anything about girls living in the sororities? It doesn't and never did. I don't give a rats ass about what the girls are like living in these sororities I want to know about the chapters. What are the fees? What are the GPA requirements? Volunteer requirements? ETC. ETC. ETC. ... Ladies, your making a mountain out of a moe hill. Go back, Go back Go back. Read the original post.......nothing is mentioned about the girls living there. GEEZ!!!

Your daughter will learn all of these things at recruitment, in addition to getting a feel for each chapter. For now, she may call ASU's Office of Greek Life/Panhellenic Council to get some basic information over the phone regarding dues and GPA requirements. Most of the sororities have national and chapter web sites. She can get a better feel for the individual events and such. She will learn all about these, as well as volunteer requirements, during recruitment.

Originally Posted by AZMOM

Man, some of you ladies, not all have got to get a life. You are scaring me.

This is really insulting. If you are seeking to become a member of this online community, please curb the generalized attacks. People will be more inclined to want to assist you. That being said, welcome to Greek Chat. Please check out the below linked thread in my sig for a "Recruitment 101" post of anything and everything your daughter might like to know about recruitment in general. Any questions she has specific to ASU are best asked by an official representative of ASU sorority recruitment-- the Panhellenic Council at the university. Anything told to you by a member of Greek Chat is not bona fide information. This being the internet, you never truly know if you are actually talking to someone who is as credible as they claim. Be very careful of this, and make sure to verify information with an official source. Nothing on a message board is gospel!

All the best to you and your daughter as she begins college. ASU is a wonderful school with a great Greek System.

[AZMOM]

Rufio, thank-you. Your GPA input was very helpful. Again, like a broken record this isn't about the girls living in the house. It's about the info. you just gave me. Thank-you......

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by kstar

You're talking to a 4th generation Sooner, getting my 5th degree from the University of Oklahoma, who was also born and raised here, so you should know better than to call it Oklahoma University, unless you're from the sticks.

Also, you don't ask that question, which predisposes people to not be nice.

ps. Daughter has the g before the t, so to abbreviate it would be dgtr, not dtgr.

Honest question from a non-OU person who lives in Oklahoma - why is it shortened to OU? I went to the University of Illinois, which would never be called Illinois University, and we always shortened it to U of I or UIUC.