Huge problem with transfering into a new chapter...HELP!!

[skylark]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Does not equal. Is not the same as.

Well, I guess since I haven't personally read every NPC organizations rules I feel a little wary of saying "can't ever" and figured the point was as clearly made by the word "usually" but maybe it would be more accurate to say I have never heard of a situation where someone was allowed to be initiated into two NPC groups for any reason.

I'm sorry to anyone who read my post and somehow discerned that I thought that being initiated into two NPC groups was ever okay. I've certainly never felt at odds with someone I completely agreed with more and if my reluctance to use uniquivocal language caused any confusion -- I am so sorry.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by skylark

Well, I guess since I haven't personally read every NPC organizations rules I feel a little wary of saying "can't ever" and figured the point was as clearly made by the word "usually" but maybe it would be more accurate to say I have never heard of a situation where someone was allowed to be initiated into two NPC groups for any reason.

It's not Sigma Kappa's decision. It's not Zeta Tau Alpha's decision. It's not Alpha Chi Omega's decision. It is the National Panhellenic Conference's unanimous agreement.

Originally Posted by skylark

I'm sorry to anyone who read my post and somehow discerned that I thought that being initiated into two NPC groups was ever okay. I've certainly never felt at odds with someone I completely agreed with more and if my reluctance to use uniquivocal language caused any confusion -- I am so sorry.

No prob. We just wanted to clarify so that others wouldn't read that post and think, "Well, skylark said 'usually' so maybe I can be an exception and rerush".

[skylark]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

It's not Sigma Kappa's decision. It's not Zeta Tau Alpha's decision. It's not Alpha Chi Omega's decision. It is the National Panhellenic Conference's unanimous agreement.

Well, I know there are at least some NPC "unanimous agreements" that are, in fact, not unanimous (despite the label). An example is the agreement that some of the orgs have passed on social events with non-dry fraternity houses. Some NPC orgs subscribe to certain parts of the agreement, some NPC orgs subscribe to it in its entirety. Some NPC orgs subscribe to it in its entirety, but then allow for exceptions if you apply first to your HQ and ask for one.

Maybe I should just leave contributions to these forums to others that obviously know more than I do in these areas. I was under the impression that as someone who was on the chapter-side of an affiliation issue while I was an active that maybe I could contribute to the conversation since the OP herself seemed pretty lost. I thought that knowing more than at least she did was enough reason to contribute, but next time I'll just wait for someone more experienced to put their two cents in.

[kddani]

It's pretty basic info that once you are initiated into one NPC sorority you can never join another one, no exceptions. I think we learned that in our first week of new member ed when I pledged.


OP, if you are over the age of 18 your mother has no business making any calls like this on your behalf. That certainly couldn't have made a good impression.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by skylark

Well, I know there are at least some NPC "unanimous agreements" that are, in fact, not unanimous (despite the label). An example is the agreement that some of the orgs have passed on social events with non-dry fraternity houses. Some NPC orgs subscribe to certain parts of the agreement, some NPC orgs subscribe to it in its entirety. Some NPC orgs subscribe to it in its entirety, but then allow for exceptions if you apply first to your HQ and ask for one.

Each group passed its own policy. About 3 said you can only mix with dry fraternities, 19-20 said the event itself has to be dry but the fraternity itself doesn't have to have dry housing or any sort of alcohol free policy, and 3 just passed the "support" policy which is basically saying alcohol free is nice but we can still drink at mixers. These may have changed since their initial adoption.

The only unanimous part was that the groups would "support" dry fraternities (i.e. they wouldn't stop mixing with them just because they were alcohol free) but that was it. And even that was a resolution, not a unanimous agreement.

I'm sorry if you felt jumped on, but as AF said, some people in this situation given an inch will take a mile. "OMG skylark said usually....that means if you're special like me you can rerush another sorority!!" It's not against you, it's to prevent the wrong impression.

[Ilaria Ame]

i just don't...GET...this. why initiate into a sorority where you don't talk to half your chapter and generally don't like the chapter itself? i think it's pretty safe to assume no one held a gun to your head and said "accept this bid from ABC or die!!!" geez...i wouldn't blame the new chapter for not wanting to accept you if the attitude you present here is the same you give them.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by skylark

Well, I guess since I haven't personally read every NPC organizations rules I feel a little wary of saying "can't ever" and figured the point was as clearly made by the word "usually" but maybe it would be more accurate to say I have never heard of a situation where someone was allowed to be initiated into two NPC groups for any reason.

I'm sorry to anyone who read my post and somehow discerned that I thought that being initiated into two NPC groups was ever okay. I've certainly never felt at odds with someone I completely agreed with more and if my reluctance to use uniquivocal language caused any confusion -- I am so sorry.

If you read the sticky that's called "Duel Memberships", and some of the old threads, you'll see why we're such sticklers for using definitive language. It seems like every time someone starts a thread about "I'm not happy, can I re-rush" or "I joined an NPC, but I really should have joined an NPHC, can I still do that" someone will chime in with a "but I know someone who did" or a perceived loophole, even though it is 100% against the rules of both Conferences. You don't want to give people even an inch when it comes to that. That's all.