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Old 08-16-2007, 10:41 AM
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hi my name is rosa and i am a pnm. i dont know if i am suppose to be posting on this board but i just really wanted to comment on this topic.i am currently attending school in ga but will be transferring to school in texas in the spring. i am african american and hispanic and do plan to participate in rush in the spring if the school i end up in has informal if not in the fall as a jr. i love phc sororities! i never had the desire to go the nphc route at all, despite the fact that i have many family members who are alums.
i think alot of the reason minorities think twice about going the phc route is because of incidents that tend to make people think that all organizations in the phc and ifc are like. such as orgs. that throw parties making fun of races, stories in the news of girls not getting bids because of being black etc. also there is the issue of alienation on both sides.at the school that im attending our greeks have an event open to everyone so we can see all the greeks on campus.they bbq and all, its really nice well the nphc orgs. didnt want to come and be apart of it so they didnt take part. a few did come and stand across the quad and watch. a friend of mine who is recruitment chair for a phc asked me why they didnt want to come over and be with everyone else i told her if they wanted to be ignorant thats them . during this event i went to talk to one sorority that i really wanted to join and the girls wouldnt even talk to me. i wanted to get a info sheet and they all made this face. that hurt me but i was like ok well there is 5 more orgs. to look at. and the girls were everything i had expected. nice, friendly, i felt totally comfortable.......... after this event(i was the only black girl to attend this event period... and i go to a school thats half black half white) one of my friends who is in an nphc and other of minority friends asked me about going to this and making a big deal out of it. i was being made to feel like i was being a traitor to my whole entire race because i didnt want to join a nphc, and was considering phc. people actually started going around saying i would rather be around whites than my own people. i know many people who have had similar to this happen and have not looked twice at phc because of it .Another thing is the process. nphc and mcg's latino greeks have membership intake. nphc is really selective and secretive about even getting "on line" but you go through this process where u really get to know who is gonna be your sister before you are even initiated(if u get initiated). latino greeks have intrest groups where for a whole semester you are with other girls who want to join fufilling various requirements such as community service,planning events ,etc. then if selected will go through the same "on line " process. phc has one - two weeks and then if you get a bid then your in. Alot of ppl feel that you dont really get to know the organization or its members well enough that way to make a decision thats for life.......

anyways i just wanted to give some insight from the other side. theres so much that aids in the decision of joining any organization when your a minority (some know when there in high school what they want to join).and i think the phc's in some places do an awesome job some not so good . ..... but dont give up!! because you convinced me! and if i do end up receiving a bid when i rush, i plan to work with my org. to help better recruite minorities . sorry this is so long but if u ever have any questions or are curious to hear my ideas on things you could do that would appeal to minorities or wanna test you ideas on me i would be willing to give you an honest unbiased opinion
Okay, I kind of understand what you're getting at here, but I have some problems with some of your thinking/assumptions. The greek event where the NPHC didn't wanna go - even though you say they were invited, you don't know the reasons as to why they chose not to participate, don't assume it was from ignorance. You are not a member of those orgs, so you (nor I) won't ever really know why they chose not to show up - but for you to assume it was simply them being ignorant shows a bit of naviety/ignorance on your part.

Also, to clarify, the NPHC orgs have a membership intake process - that is the official term they use once they elected to get rid of pledging (& make it illegal). Latin & multicultural greeks have what most call an intake process. A one-word difference, but the M.I.P. phrase is something especially (I believe exclusively) for the NPHC. The conotations of the different words mean very different things.

Just trying to clarify it for you.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:57 AM
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Okay, I kind of understand what you're getting at here, but I have some problems with some of your thinking/assumptions. The greek event where the NPHC didn't wanna go - even though you say they were invited, you don't know the reasons as to why they chose not to participate, don't assume it was from ignorance. You are not a member of those orgs, so you (nor I) won't ever really know why they chose not to show up - but for you to assume it was simply them being ignorant shows a bit of naviety/ignorance on your part.

Also, to clarify, the NPHC orgs have a membership intake process - that is the official term they use once they elected to get rid of pledging (& make it illegal). Latin & multicultural greeks have what most call an intake process. A one-word difference, but the M.I.P. phrase is something especially (I believe exclusively) for the NPHC. The conotations of the different words mean very different things.

Just trying to clarify it for you.



i wasnt trying to come across as ignorant i was told by several friends who are nphc memembers why they didnt want to come... but at the same time i think you are right i really cant speak for them. its a hard situation to explain the way i want to explain it without knowing the school. greek life here is very segregated for the most part and its just alot of really bad tension and tons of stuff... i just hope it gets better but anyways i really do appreciate the clarification because i wasnt aware of that difference in the orgs process.
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