Petition ABC Family to Cancel "Greek"

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by macallan25

What do you mean by , "Wal Mart deletes various parts of cd's that they deem inappropriate"? I was under the impression that Wal Mart simply didn't carry offensive cd's.

O, they carry them, they are just bleeped out copies. And it is Walmart's decision to do so, although yes, the producer can put out a "cleaner" version, just like a radio station can only play the "nicer" version--which is still censorship.

But back to the topic at hand--"Greek" show--good or bad for the Greek community? I think we are all in agreement about one thing. It's not uplifting to the Greek community, nor is it flattering. But again, we're in America, and sex sells, as well as anything else that is not exactly wholesome.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

But back to the topic at hand--"Greek" show--good or bad for the Greek community? I think we are all in agreement about one thing. It's not uplifting to the Greek community, nor is it flattering. But again, we're in America, and sex sells, as well as anything else that is not exactly wholesome.

"Back to the topic" - GC talk meaning "I'm loosing the side debate I started so let's quickly change the subject so maybe no one will notice".

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

"Back to the topic" - GC talk meaning "I'm loosing the side debate I started so let's quickly change the subject so maybe no one will notice".

No, I don't consider myself losing any debate, I just would like to steer the thread back to its inception--which was to discuss whether or not "Greek" is a good thing or a bad thing. I don't want to keep going in circles about what is censorship and what isn't, because I already have my own view of what it is and isn't, and I don't need someone to try to bully me into seeing it another way. Again, I am agreeing to disagree.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

O, they carry them, they are just bleeped out copies. And it is Walmart's decision to do so, although yes, the producer can put out a "cleaner" version, just like a radio station can only play the "nicer" version--which is still censorship.

But back to the topic at hand--"Greek" show--good or bad for the Greek community? I think we are all in agreement about one thing. It's not uplifting to the Greek community, nor is it flattering. But again, we're in America, and sex sells, as well as anything else that is not exactly wholesome.

No......Wal Mart cannot decide to edit a copyrighted CD and then sell it how they see fit. This is Illegal. That is up to the music producer and the artist. As far as the radio........artists have "radio edits" of their songs that are specifically mixed for.......the radio. How is this censorship? Nobody is forcing artists to clean up their lyrics. If they don't want to have songs on the air or sell them at Wal Mart......they don't have to.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by macallan25

No......Wal Mart cannot decide to edit a copyrighted CD and then sell it how they see fit. This is Illegal. That is up to the music producer and the artist. As far as the radio........artists have "radio edits" of their songs that are specifically mixed for.......the radio. How is this censorship? Nobody is forcing artists to clean up their lyrics. If they don't want to have songs on the air or sell them at Wal Mart......they don't have to.

Agreeing to disagree. "Greek"--good or bad? Should it be censored? Does anyone care anymore? Let's stop going around in circles, please.

[macallan25]

I don't think you are understanding here.......there is not disagreeing.....nothing you said about Wal Mart or the Radio is true......at all.

"Greek" is irrelavent......it looks like a terrible show on ABC Family that nobody will watch. I do not think it will have any real affect on real Greeks, I'm not that concernced about it, and I really don't think anyone will care that they have a TV show about fake fraternities/sororities. If people think they should make up their minds about Greek Life based on a teenager-targeted TV show....then they should be slapped in the face.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I don't think you are understanding here.......there is not disagreeing.....nothing you said about Wal Mart or the Radio is true......at all.

"Greek" is irrelavent......it looks like a terrible show on ABC Family that nobody will watch. I do not think it will portray Greeks negatively, I'm not that concernced about it, and I really don't think anyone will care that they have a TV show about fake fraternities/sororities. If people think they should make up their minds about Greek Life based on a teenager-targeted TV show....then they should be slapped in the face.

Agreed, but unfortunately, many of those people WILL take what they see on television for fact, which is not a positive for the Greek community.

[macallan25]

Well....to be honest......that's there problem. People that take that kind of show for fact are also the type people that get legal advice from Law and Order and think that Dennis Leary is a real fire fighter.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Well....to be honest......that's there problem. People that take that kind of show for fact are also the type people that get legal advice from Law and Order and think that Dennis Leary is a real fire fighter.

OMG...I've got Typhoid Fever...I know because I saw it on Scrubs, which was then confirmed by ER.

[mu_agd]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Well....to be honest......that's there problem. People that take that kind of show for fact are also the type people that get legal advice from Law and Order and think that Dennis Leary is a real fire fighter.

Wait, Denis isn't a real fire fighter? Damn, I always hope he's going to show up when some stupid person pulls the fire alarm in my building because they think they are still living in the dorms.

[AlexMack]

So I watched the first episode and laughed extremely hard. It's stupid to the point of the polar opposite of true greek life.

The men had a rho chi for fraternity rush and they visited every house. The women went to the ones they wanted and were competing to get a senator's daughter as a member which naturally meant bribery with no shame.

The sorority was doing a fake recruitment workshop that basically centered around (omg last season prada shoes, obviously borrowed from a friend she has no money cut her) designer clothes. Then the sorority president says 'you've all done well. Now how about we go do some philanthropy work down at the senior center. [pause]just kidding, get your ID or fake ID and meet me at [local college bar].'

This show is so dumb it's almost offensive but then you just have to laugh instead because it's so ridiculous. I actually encourage PNMs to watch this show, believe that this is all greek life is and come through recruitment. God knows we could all use the laugh.

[kdonline]

I heard that there were some petitions to keep Greek off the air being circled around the KD Convention last week.