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06-20-2007, 09:36 AM
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Here's a guy who could potentially split the Democrat vote and put another Republican in the White House.
I wouldn't complain.
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06-20-2007, 10:02 AM
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Eh, I doubt he'll run as a democrat either.
He isn't Rudy. The entire country doesn't know and love (or hate) this guy. He's the mayor of NY, not "America's Mayor"
I doubt he'll affect either side like Thompson is.
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06-20-2007, 02:47 PM
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Eh, I doubt he'll run as a democrat either.
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If he splits the Dem vote, it's because he's NOT running as a Dem. Same happened with Perot, Nader, etc... they were liberal independants that ran and got votes that would have probably otherwise gone Dem.
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06-20-2007, 02:50 PM
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If he splits the Dem vote, it's because he's NOT running as a Dem. Same happened with Perot, Nader, etc... they were liberal independants that ran and got votes that would have probably otherwise gone Dem.
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Yeah I messed that up. But I don't think he's a Perot or a Nader. He's not that big of a personality or a name. (although he says he's not running now so the point may be moot)
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06-20-2007, 10:03 AM
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Here's a guy who could potentially split the Democrat vote and put another Republican in the White House.
I wouldn't complain.
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Exactly. Which is what is so interesting about the whole thing...My husband and I love Bloomie, but know he could never win the White House. We've been reading a lot about a potential run, and we just don't see how he would ever do it. He is way too smart a man to not realize that he would definitely split the Democratic ticket.
I suppose it could be so he could be picked as someone's (Dem or Rep.) running mate, but we don't see him as VP material - he's way too used to being in charge.
Hmmm, who knows...I do dig his running of the city, though.
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06-20-2007, 02:21 PM
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Looks like he's just losing the affiliation...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070620/pl_nm/bloomberg_dc
"NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Wednesday he was not a candidate for the 2008 U.S. presidential election despite having changed his political affiliation to independent from Republican.
A day after announcing the shift, Bloomberg said -- as he has before -- that he intended to serve as mayor until the end of his term in 2009."
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06-20-2007, 02:40 PM
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Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.
He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.
If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting.
They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!
Rudey, well I see Fred above all of them!
Hillary, well, she moved to NY so she could run for the Senate. I think that was called carpetbagging in the olden days!
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06-20-2007, 04:54 PM
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Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.
He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.
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Because you're day to day life has so been touched by his mayorship of NYC?
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If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting. 
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 Are you talking about the proposed tax on drivers coming into the city? Millions of people living outside NYC work there every day using mass transit. The tax is just an idea, albeit a controversial one, but you make it sound like anyone working in Manhattan will have to pay money to work here. Wrong!
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They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!
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Wrong again. Many people who work in the city would love to live in the city, but it's way too expensive. So we move to the outer boroughs or suburbs so we can have more than a rat-infested studio apartment for our 2K a month.
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06-20-2007, 06:15 PM
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It's probably fair to point out that, before becoming a Republican, he was a Democrat.
Now, he wants to be an Independent.
Doesn't anyone else think that this guy will accept any label that he thinks is the most popular way of getting a few votes?
He may be a great mayor, but there's a lot of difference between Gracie Mansion and the White House.
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06-21-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
It's probably fair to point out that, before becoming a Republican, he was a Democrat.
Now, he wants to be an Independent.
Doesn't anyone else think that this guy will accept any label that he thinks is the most popular way of getting a few votes?
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From what I've seen of him, I have to agree with you on this one.
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06-21-2007, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltAlum
It's probably fair to point out that, before becoming a Republican, he was a Democrat.
Now, he wants to be an Independent.
Doesn't anyone else think that this guy will accept any label that he thinks is the most popular way of getting a few votes?
He may be a great mayor, but there's a lot of difference between Gracie Mansion and the White House.
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Well, he switched to Republican b/c the Democratic candidate for the mayor's race that year was pretty set already and he knew he'd have no way of getting the nomination. I think that's the same reasoning behind being "independent" (though I still don't think he's going to run).
Plus, he's a businessman before anything - he cares less about lables and more about the bottom line I think, so I agree he'll accept any label that gets him what he wants - but I don't think it's a negative. The whole 2 party system has some major issues, IMO...
And your last line I'll make 2 points about...
1. Bloomie doesn't live in Gracie Mansion. He lives in his own mansion b/c he likes it better and b/c it costs the city less than maintaining Gracie for him.
2. Then why the heck do people think Rudy will do such a good job?!?!?! He won't, people! There's a lot more to running the US than looking good in a press shot after a national tragedy...  (Directed at those who think Rudy can run the country, not at DA!  )
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06-20-2007, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.
He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.
If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting.
They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!
Rudey, well I see Fred above all of them!
Hillary, well, she moved to NY so she could run for the Senate. I think that was called carpetbagging in the olden days! 
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You just need to sit down and shut up. You don't know jack shite about anything. The only thing you need to be comparing is Boones Farm and Bartles and Jaymes, you old lush.
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06-21-2007, 02:40 PM
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You just need to sit down and shut up. You don't know jack shite about anything. The only thing you need to be comparing is Boones Farm and Bartles and Jaymes, you old lush.
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Nice Post!  knock yourself out ditsoid!
Well, it seems I have been around and been to more places than you ever thougt of being.
In answer to another poster, yes it is expensive to live in NY City and people moved out to where there is grass and trees other than Central park. So, it is only a suggestion by the Big B about charging for incomeing trafic , tell the folks Oh, Do Not come into the city and work. Well, since you have seemed to live there, then why is the traffic so bad going out as it is coming in?
Ta Da, give the people going out the city jobs, and the people coming in the jobs they had?
Granted, I have only flown into the 3 local air ports, been in only 3 bouroghs (?)(SIC), and have been lost on The Island trying to get the hell off of it back to Gods Country. Only worked with RH Macy as a buyer and delt with Presidents of NY Companies or with a major Distillerlery with HQ at 7th and 7th.
No, I guess I do not know anything!
If you think The Donald has an ego, at least he is smart enough to not run for the Mayoral job. DAR!
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06-21-2007, 04:18 PM
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So, it is only a suggestion by the Big B about charging for incomeing trafic , tell the folks Oh, Do Not come into the city and work. Well, since you have seemed to live there, then why is the traffic so bad going out as it is coming in?
Ta Da, give the people going out the city jobs, and the people coming in the jobs they had?
Granted, I have only flown into the 3 local air ports, been in only 3 bouroghs (?)(SIC), and have been lost on The Island trying to get the hell off of it back to Gods Country. Only worked with RH Macy as a buyer and delt with Presidents of NY Companies or with a major Distillerlery with HQ at 7th and 7th.
No, I guess I do not know anything! 
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Tom, just because you've come here for business doesn't mean you have any clue what it is like to live here (or in the general area). A random business trip here and there doesn't give you a real idea of how the city runs day to day.
And, again, MOST people take mass transit into NYC for their jobs, so this proposed fee isn't hurting MOST people who work in NYC. So quit making it sound like he's keeping people from working.
I have no idea what you mean about giving other people jobs, so I'll just ignore it. As far as why is the traffic so bad, here's a little hint - biggest city in the country. Millions of people. Not a hard concept on the traffic issue...
Thanks for answering about Gracie, AlphaFrog!
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06-22-2007, 05:05 AM
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Well, it seems I have been around and been to more places than you ever thougt of being.
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Yeah, like rehab. Or maybe that's just a place you should have been.
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Granted, I have only flown into the 3 local air ports, been in only 3 bouroghs (?)(SIC), and have been lost on The Island trying to get the hell off of it back to Gods Country. Only worked with RH Macy as a buyer and delt with Presidents of NY Companies or with a major Distillerlery with HQ at 7th and 7th.
No, I guess I do not know anything! 
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Oh, big whoop you've been here for business. The people with whom you are disagreeing have lived in the NYC area or grew up there. I'm so glad you've been DEMODDED so I can put your drunk ass on ignore.
Why am I trying to talk some sense into a walking bottle of moonshine?
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