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jon1856 06-19-2007 11:37 PM

Bloomberg leaves Republican Party
 
This "could" make things even more interesting:
Bloomberg leaves Republican Party
NYC mayor, subject of speculation about presidential run, now unaffiliated
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19317522/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,284612,00.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/polit...27608620070620

AlethiaSi 06-20-2007 08:37 AM

i'm not surprised, I WAS surprised when he ran under the republican party, but it made total sense. My father works for Bloomberg's company... I'm interested to see what he has to say about all this.

Kevin 06-20-2007 09:36 AM

Here's a guy who could potentially split the Democrat vote and put another Republican in the White House.

I wouldn't complain.

Drolefille 06-20-2007 10:02 AM

Eh, I doubt he'll run as a democrat either.

He isn't Rudy. The entire country doesn't know and love (or hate) this guy. He's the mayor of NY, not "America's Mayor"

I doubt he'll affect either side like Thompson is.

xo_kathy 06-20-2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1469969)
Here's a guy who could potentially split the Democrat vote and put another Republican in the White House.

I wouldn't complain.

Exactly. Which is what is so interesting about the whole thing...My husband and I love Bloomie, but know he could never win the White House. We've been reading a lot about a potential run, and we just don't see how he would ever do it. He is way too smart a man to not realize that he would definitely split the Democratic ticket.

I suppose it could be so he could be picked as someone's (Dem or Rep.) running mate, but we don't see him as VP material - he's way too used to being in charge.

Hmmm, who knows...I do dig his running of the city, though.

xo_kathy 06-20-2007 02:21 PM

Looks like he's just losing the affiliation...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070620/pl_nm/bloomberg_dc

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Wednesday he was not a candidate for the 2008 U.S. presidential election despite having changed his political affiliation to independent from Republican.

A day after announcing the shift, Bloomberg said -- as he has before -- that he intended to serve as mayor until the end of his term in 2009."

Tom Earp 06-20-2007 02:40 PM

Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.

He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.

If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting.:(

They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!

Rudey, well I see Fred above all of them!:D

Hillary, well, she moved to NY so she could run for the Senate. I think that was called carpetbagging in the olden days!;)

AlphaFrog 06-20-2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1469982)
Eh, I doubt he'll run as a democrat either.

If he splits the Dem vote, it's because he's NOT running as a Dem. Same happened with Perot, Nader, etc... they were liberal independants that ran and got votes that would have probably otherwise gone Dem.

Drolefille 06-20-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1470204)
If he splits the Dem vote, it's because he's NOT running as a Dem. Same happened with Perot, Nader, etc... they were liberal independants that ran and got votes that would have probably otherwise gone Dem.

Yeah I messed that up. But I don't think he's a Perot or a Nader. He's not that big of a personality or a name. (although he says he's not running now so the point may be moot)

MysticCat 06-20-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1469969)
Here's a guy who could potentially split the Democrat vote and put another Republican in the White House.

I wouldn't complain.

Well, whether I'd complain would depend on who the Dem and GOP candidates were.

The conventional wisdom I'm hearing is that he he could split the Dem vote if he runs (little credence is being given to his statement that he will not run, since there's so much time left to change his mind), but he could also make things hard for Giuliani.

shinerbock 06-20-2007 04:50 PM

I've heard some people saying he could take moderate GOP votes. However, I don't think this is credited. If it were Tancredo v. Hillary, sure, he might. However, the discussion I heard revolved around Guiliani v. Hillary, in which case you'd have a slightly moderate liberal matching up against a significantly moderate conservative, and I don't think Bloomberg would really catch the middle-right.

Thats the biggest problem I foresee for the Democrats in 2008. When there is middle ground to be won, you don't throw up 2 very liberal candidates. Adding Gore isn't the answer either. Ideology and hope can be blinding sometimes, and for the left it seems to sometimes come at the expense of smart politics.

xo_kathy 06-20-2007 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1470197)
Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.

He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.

Because you're day to day life has so been touched by his mayorship of NYC? :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1470197)
If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting.:(

:confused:Are you talking about the proposed tax on drivers coming into the city? Millions of people living outside NYC work there every day using mass transit. The tax is just an idea, albeit a controversial one, but you make it sound like anyone working in Manhattan will have to pay money to work here. Wrong!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1470197)
They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!

Wrong again. Many people who work in the city would love to live in the city, but it's way too expensive. So we move to the outer boroughs or suburbs so we can have more than a rat-infested studio apartment for our 2K a month.

DeltAlum 06-20-2007 06:15 PM

It's probably fair to point out that, before becoming a Republican, he was a Democrat.

Now, he wants to be an Independent.

Doesn't anyone else think that this guy will accept any label that he thinks is the most popular way of getting a few votes?

He may be a great mayor, but there's a lot of difference between Gracie Mansion and the White House.

Munchkin03 06-20-2007 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1470197)
Actually I truely wonders who cares waht he does.

He has a lot of $$$$ but I have not been impressed with him as mayor.

If people living outside of NY, NY have to start paying $$ to work there well, that ought to be interesting.:(

They did not want to live in NY, that is why they left!

Rudey, well I see Fred above all of them!:D

Hillary, well, she moved to NY so she could run for the Senate. I think that was called carpetbagging in the olden days!;)

You just need to sit down and shut up. You don't know jack shite about anything. The only thing you need to be comparing is Boones Farm and Bartles and Jaymes, you old lush.

33girl 06-21-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1470396)
It's probably fair to point out that, before becoming a Republican, he was a Democrat.

Now, he wants to be an Independent.

Doesn't anyone else think that this guy will accept any label that he thinks is the most popular way of getting a few votes?

From what I've seen of him, I have to agree with you on this one.


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