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Old 06-13-2007, 02:20 PM
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ok...apparently i have offended a few people on here, and for that i am sorry you feel the way you do. i am looking at this from probably a more emotional POV than others are. i have family and friends in this war. i was blessed to have some of them return safely, and then go BACK and come home injured. and then this same goverment is not taking care of our injured troops the way it should be and that is a FACT.

IMO, if you voted to KEEP GW in the white house the 2nd time around, and you knew what he was capable of, you are part of the problem. If you are not doing or have not done anything within your reach to bring these men and women back home, you are partly (not 100%) responsible for whatever happens. i will cut slack for anyone who voted for GW the first time, because nobody knew what was going to happen. but the 2nd time around?? i dont think so.

i get mentally exhausted looking at obit after obit of these children being sent home in wooden boxes. as a mother it breaks my heart to see someone bury their child. that is pretty much my angle with things.

eta: i am not worthless. my vote counted as much as yours did in that election...
Many of us have friends and family who are serving/have served in Iraq. Most of my views on the war are influenced by the soldiers I know.

Many (if not most) soldiers and many (if not most) military families support our mission in Iraq. Just because you think its pointless doesn't mean they do and that we should.

People disagree about the war, thats fine. However when you refer to Bush in that manner (that we "knew what he was capable of"), you lose legitimacy. He's someone who acted on the information he had at the time, fighting a war like we've never fought before. Prone to mistake, sure, but implying he's evil or something is just ridiculous.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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what can i say? im a natural lover and not a fighter. i support the TROOPS, not the war. i send letters, care packages, post cards, anything to boost their morale, because lets face it, some of them arent coming home. and anything that kills thousands of young people (dui, drugs, violence in schools, etc.) needs to be addressed.

i may also be around a different group of soldiers as well, of the 5 i know who are home now, all of them felt the war was unneccesary. i guess none of us who are here comfortable in the US will know as well as they do...
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:42 PM
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what can i say? im a natural lover and not a fighter. i support the TROOPS, not the war. i send letters, care packages, post cards, anything to boost their morale, because lets face it, some of them arent coming home. and anything that kills thousands of young people (dui, drugs, violence in schools, etc.) needs to be addressed.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I personally find it difficult to believe that you could be supportive of the troops but against them being successful in their mission. I

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i may also be around a different group of soldiers as well, of the 5 i know who are home now, all of them felt the war was unneccesary. i guess none of us who are here comfortable in the US will know as well as they do...
Just because I've been to Europe a few times doesn't make me an expert on US-EU relations.
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^^^if them being "successful" means they will make it home safe, then so be it. i will support whatever gets my family and friends home in one working piece...dont get support mixed up with AGREE WITH though...
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:53 PM
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So you disagree with what they're doing, yet you support them?

Again, that seems to be a contradictory statement.
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Old 06-13-2007, 03:13 PM
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People disagree about the war, thats fine. However when you refer to Bush in that manner (that we "knew what he was capable of"), you lose legitimacy.
As someone who has never been a fan or supporter of Bush (and who never voted for him), I actually agree with you. I may not agree with many of the policies he has pursued or the way he has gone about pursuing them, but that kind of knee-jerk reaction to Bush is, in my opinion, just as lacking in any real thought as the knee-jerk reactions to Bill Clinton were. It gets an immediate discounting of credibility from me.

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How about the Demos who voted to make Kerry the Democrat nominee? If y'all had actually put forward a candidate who was worth a crap, maybe things would be different.
Again, I find myself in agreement.
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