Stereotyping HBCU's

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Administration TOLD us that's the rule, but I've never seen it written down, either!

http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/wait.asp

I suspect they just wanted you to show up.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/wait.asp

I suspect they just wanted you to show up.

LOL. I advise people to NOT follow snopes' documentation of waiting times based on ranking. It will fail almost everytime. Most instructors don't care about ranking differences when it comes to students. We are at a higher ranking/power differential than undergrads and that's all that matters.

sidebar:
I had an undergrad professor who was late right before a big exam. We waited a while and left. He punished us by first chastising us via email, then at the next class session, and finally refusing to give us an exam review. Some professors will show up late and keep you extra long to make up for their lateness. Students really aren't REQUIRED to stay past the class time. However, I understand how students who don't have another class to attend or work, are afraid to walk out and potentially get penalized. That's bad ethics to try to bully your students and not ASK them if they are able to stay an extra 20 minutes to finish up material.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

sidebar:
I had an undergrad professor who was late right before a big exam. We waited a while and left. He punished us by first chastising us via email, then at the next class session, and finally refusing to give us an exam review. Some professors will show up late and keep you extra long to make up for their lateness. Students really aren't REQUIRED to stay past the class time. However, I understand how students who don't have another class to attend or work, are afraid to walk out and potentially get penalized. That's bad ethics to try to bully your students and not ASK them if they are able to stay an extra 20 minutes to finish up material.

I would recommend this for students who had several cancelled classes by any one professor (especially if you are paying tuition out of pocket).

Ask for a prorated tuition refund for each class session(s) that had to be cancelled by the professor. Why are you paying your hard earned $$ for a professor to NOT show up? That doesn't make sense.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread....

[Infamous12]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I would recommend this for students who had several cancelled classes by any one professor (especially if you are paying tuition out of pocket).

Ask for a prorated tuition refund for each class session(s) that had to be cancelled by the professor. Why are you paying your hard earned $$ for a professor to NOT show up? That doesn't make sense.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread....

*wish I would've thought of that*

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Infamous12

*wish I would've thought of that*

It won't work at every institution.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It won't work at every institution.

Twist the right person's arm hard enough and long enough, and trust, it'll work at any institution.

If all else fails, bring in the heavy reinforcements:

THE NEWS MEDIA

(after all, colleges are businesses too, you want everyone to know you are getting ripped off, don't you?)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Twist the right person's arm hard enough and long enough, and trust, it'll work at any institution.

If all else fails, bring in the heavy reinforcements:

THE NEWS MEDIA

(after all, colleges are businesses too, you want everyone to know you are getting ripped off, don't you?)

Like I said, it won't work at every institution.

UNTIL you jump through those hoops (you said "ask for" like it was that simple). And it still might not work after all of that.

Which is why most students won't ever think of that or won't have the desire to go through with it. Just like why people in the working world often don't complain about unfair practices and being ripped off or discriminated against. Too much intentional bureaucratic red tape. Universities and other businesses do that on purpose and know that people won't jump through those hoops due to time or lack of patience. That's why schools make tons of money off of unreasonable tuition and fee expenses every semester.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Twist the right person's arm hard enough and long enough, and trust, it'll work at any institution.

If all else fails, bring in the heavy reinforcements:

THE NEWS MEDIA

(after all, colleges are businesses too, you want everyone to know you are getting ripped off, don't you?)

Forget the media...I'd call my daddy. We may not lilke each other, but he'll be there if there's a good fight involved. Most people have big momma tell administration about themselves, but Mommy CG is too nice. All my refunds seemed to straighten out within 24 hours after a call from my daddy.


For real, I see what you mean. I think the administration scared the students into never calling the media, saying we didn't want to be responsible for more negative black images on the news, did we? So, we used to call the campus news station to cover our student protests and we were always able to work out some sort of deal when the cameras were there. However, as of last month, we no longer have a campus television network for "lack of funding." Should've seen that one coming, man...it was only a matter of time.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

LOL. I advise people to NOT follow snopes' documentation of waiting times based on ranking. It will fail almost everytime. Most instructors don't care about ranking differences when it comes to students. We are at a higher ranking/power differential than undergrads and that's all that matters.

sidebar:
I had an undergrad professor who was late right before a big exam. We waited a while and left. He punished us by first chastising us via email, then at the next class session, and finally refusing to give us an exam review. Some professors will show up late and keep you extra long to make up for their lateness. Students really aren't REQUIRED to stay past the class time. However, I understand how students who don't have another class to attend or work, are afraid to walk out and potentially get penalized. That's bad ethics to try to bully your students and not ASK them if they are able to stay an extra 20 minutes to finish up material.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't encourage it either. I think it's unfortunate that most teachers don't address what to do if THEY are the late ones in their syllabuses. Most people in my classes can't stay late, and if they drive from 45 miles away only to have a teacher not show up, they're way more pissed than the people in town.
I've always given the 15 minutes (although I know plenty of people who try to follow the rankings and stay a shorter period of time) and it's always been for a good reason, but I hate to see bad teachers abuse a class for it.