Stereotyping HBCU's

Live_Wire17 · #1 06-05-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonderful1908

Amen! I am completing my masters at my 2nd SWAC school and about to enroll at a third SWAC school to begin my doctorate program! 3 schools all operating the same!

You like punishment...don't you?

Wonderful1908 · #2 06-06-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire17

You like punishment...don't you?

I must, case in point God Love em, I have four classes this summer which started last week:

1.Tuesday drove all the way to PVU and guess what no teacher!
2. Wendeday Drove to the remote site guess what no teacher!
3.Thursday drove back to the remote site, yes a teacher! Moving very fast in statistics but atleast he was there!
4. Monday drove to the remote site teacher was 45 minutes late!

I am going to be honest I am one who appreciated a good class cancellation/dismissal but don't have me drive 60 miles one way and 60 miles back another or waste my time and you ain't there. Gas is high!

Alas I still love the SWAC!

christiangirl · #3 06-06-2007, 02:04 AM

^^^This story reminds me of something. Why did schools (or at least my school) mandate you wait 10 minutes for a teacher (15 minutes for a professor) before you are allowed to assume class is cancelled and leave? What's more, if the teacher shows up more than 15 minutes late, why are they allowed to shove you back into class and continue? If I'm more than a second late, I get points marked off, or not even allowed into class at all. If they are supposed to lead by example, why can't we say, "Too bad, you're not here so class is cancelled for today?"

(I know it'd never happen, and there'd be material lost, but it'd be nice.

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Drolefille · #4 06-06-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl

^^^This story reminds me of something. Why did schools (or at least my school) mandate you wait 10 minutes for a teacher (15 minutes for a professor) before you are allowed to assume class is cancelled and leave? What's more, if the teacher shows up more than 15 minutes late, why are they allowed to shove you back into class and continue? If I'm more than a second late, I get points marked off, or not even allowed into class at all. If they are supposed to lead by example, why can't we say, "Too bad, you're not here so class is cancelled for today?"

(I know it'd never happen, and there'd be material lost, but it'd be nice.

)

Find me a school that has that as an official rule. I've never seen it written down. It's one of those unwritten assumption things that everyone operates on.
The only times I've ever had that problem have been on days where the weather was too bad for an individual teacher to get in although school wasn't canceled or some sort of other emergency, car wreck or something. In those situations I don't mind waiting.

christiangirl · #5 06-06-2007, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Find me a school that has that as an official rule. I've never seen it written down. It's one of those unwritten assumption things that everyone operates on.

Administration TOLD us that's the rule, but I've never seen it written down, either!

Drolefille · #6 06-06-2007, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl

Administration TOLD us that's the rule, but I've never seen it written down, either!

http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/wait.asp

I suspect they just wanted you to show up.

DSTCHAOS · #7 06-06-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/wait.asp

I suspect they just wanted you to show up.

LOL. I advise people to NOT follow snopes' documentation of waiting times based on ranking. It will fail almost everytime. Most instructors don't care about ranking differences when it comes to students. We are at a higher ranking/power differential than undergrads and that's all that matters.

sidebar:
I had an undergrad professor who was late right before a big exam. We waited a while and left. He punished us by first chastising us via email, then at the next class session, and finally refusing to give us an exam review. Some professors will show up late and keep you extra long to make up for their lateness. Students really aren't REQUIRED to stay past the class time. However, I understand how students who don't have another class to attend or work, are afraid to walk out and potentially get penalized. That's bad ethics to try to bully your students and not ASK them if they are able to stay an extra 20 minutes to finish up material.

DSTCHAOS · #8 06-06-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl

Administration TOLD us that's the rule, but I've never seen it written down, either!

The "15 minute rule" is a staple of most college classrooms. But it isn't an official administrative guideline but rather a generic guideline, of sorts.

Instructors have their own guidelines for student attendance and often tell students that they can go by the "15 minute rule" just because it's familiar to most people. Universities don't penalize students at the micro-level of class attendance. Instructors do.

The only time the administration of most colleges and universities have guidelines for class attendance is when it comes to inclement weather and holiday policies.