White men in NPHC

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

From reading the websites, I do not see anything that says a complete understanding of what it is to be black is required. Understanding the goals is an entirely different matter. You did not encourage or discourage anyone, I wasn't only discussing your comments however, but others I've seen on this, and other more NPHC focused message boards. I never said I thought this was an issue at an organizational level, simply one on an individual level.
I would expect members of an organization to be looked at with equal respect and not to have their motives questioned after they are already members. Isn't that the purpose of a pledge period/membership process or whatever?

I mean no offense by this, but this is one of those things that is just very different between NPC and NPHC, and I don't know if you can understand without being a member, just like I know I will never be able to understand NPC recruitment rules.

It would completely absurd for a non-black BGLO member to be offended when he or she is questioned about membership. Honestly, if I am walking down the street and meet a woman wearing letters that I don't know, I am going to accept her more quickly as my Soror if she is black - I mean, if nothing else, that's statistics. If you are a non-black member of a BGLO (which, as most of you know, I am), then you expect questions - about your legitimacy, your motives, etc. Some people will have a big problem with you, others won't. If you can't deal with that, and it's not worth it to you, you don't join the org.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

I mean no offense by this, but this is one of those things that is just very different between NPC and NPHC, and I don't know if you can understand without being a member, just like I know I will never be able to understand NPC recruitment rules.

It would completely absurd for a non-black BGLO member to be offended when he or she is questioned about membership. Honestly, if I am walking down the street and meet a woman wearing letters that I don't know, I am going to accept her more quickly as my Soror if she is black - I mean, if nothing else, that's statistics. If you are a non-black member of a BGLO (which, as most of you know, I am), then you expect questions - about your legitimacy, your motives, etc. Some people will have a big problem with you, others won't. If you can't deal with that, and it's not worth it to you, you don't join the org.

I got some of that from DSTChao's posts, I just think it a shame that there is MORE on a non-black member, however expected that is. I do learn things here

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I got some of that from DSTChao's posts, I just think it a shame that there is MORE on a non-black member, however expected that is. I do learn things here

If anyone comes here and doesn't learn something, they're trying not to

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I got some of that from DSTChao's posts, I just think it a shame that there is MORE on a non-black member, however expected that is. I do learn things here

Well, the logic does make sense when you think about it. I'm a social scientist. If for some earthly reason I wanted to join the National Earth Science Association, I'd have the regular requirements to fulfill. But I'd also have to fulfill the unwritten requirements of becoming a hard sciences person, being able to interact with hard sciences people who are or aren't in my organization, and relate to hard sciences "concerns." I can't think it's unfair that I'm being put through the wringer more than people who are hard science people and not social scientists.

Also remember that we are individuals typing. We don't express the sentiment of anyone but ourselves.