Life's short, get a divorce

cheerfulgreek · #1 05-09-2007, 08:42 PM

lol

This is bad. Totally bad. With the way couples look at marriage today, I don't see why they would even need to put up a sign like that. It's sad, but no one takes marriage seriously anymore.

Kevin · #2 05-09-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

lol

no one takes marriage seriously anymore.

I work in a law office. About 3/4 of our practice is in divorce/custody.

People take marriage very seriously.. and divorce even moreso. I don't see people traipsing in here on a whim.

cheerfulgreek · #3 05-09-2007, 08:58 PM

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I work in a law office. About 3/4 of our practice is in divorce/custody.

People take marriage very seriously.. and divorce even moreso. I don't see people traipsing in here on a whim.

Then why is the divorce rate so high?

Kevin · #4 05-09-2007, 09:00 PM

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Then why is the divorce rate so high?

I'm not sure anyone knows... but please, I invite you to stand in front of my office and ask our clients whether they feel they take marriage seriously. Go right ahead

cheerfulgreek · #5 05-09-2007, 09:04 PM

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I'm not sure anyone knows... but please, I invite you to stand in front of my office and ask our clients whether they feel they take marriage seriously. Go right ahead

I believe you, it's just with the divorce rate being so high, it's just really hard to understand why.

Kevin · #6 05-09-2007, 09:23 PM

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I believe you, it's just with the divorce rate being so high, it's just really hard to understand why.

No one really knows -- but I'll bet we'll spend another few million dollars this year paying universities to do research on the subject!

PrettyBoy · #7 05-09-2007, 09:58 PM

I think it may be our careers. It seems like people are more into their careers and preparing for them than they are into getting married and staying married. Look at marriage back in the 50s and look at it now. There is something very wrong. I may be wrong, but it's just a wild guess.

AKA_Monet · #8 05-10-2007, 01:02 AM

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No one really knows -- but I'll bet we'll spend another few million dollars this year paying universities to do research on the subject!

Ironically, places like Smart Marriages, Marriage Partnership, Covenant Marriages, 5 Love Languages, and The Gottman Institute they probably will have a cottage industry generated by more religious groups than secular groups.

The question remains why are we still getting married given the difficulty?

GeekyPenguin · #9 05-09-2007, 10:47 PM

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Then why is the divorce rate so high?

1) Britney Spears
2) Fundamentalists who get married at 18 so they can engage in some God-sanctioned boning
3) People who get married more than once are much more likely to end up in divorce in subsequent marriages
4) Lack of adequate pre-marital counseling

cheerfulgreek · #10 05-09-2007, 11:00 PM

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1) Britney Spears
2) Fundamentalists who get married at 18 so they can engage in some God-sanctioned boning
3) People who get married more than once are much more likely to end up in divorce in subsequent marriages
4) Lack of adequate pre-marital counseling

o.k. I understand that, but why now? It wasn't like this 50 years ago. Was the counseling better then? What does Britney Spears have to do with it? She's an idiot.

GeekyPenguin · #11 05-09-2007, 11:26 PM

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o.k. I understand that, but why now? It wasn't like this 50 years ago. Was the counseling better then? What does Britney Spears have to do with it? She's an idiot.

Celebrities like her who get divorced a million times promote the idea that marriage is not a lifetime commitment. Counseling certainly used to be better. The Catholic church requires the most marriage counseling out of any religion - and incidentally is tied for the lowest divorce rates of faith communities.

cheerfulgreek · #12 05-09-2007, 11:31 PM

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Celebrities like her who get divorced a million times promote the idea that marriage is not a lifetime commitment. Counseling certainly used to be better. The Catholic church requires the most marriage counseling out of any religion - and incidentally is tied for the lowest divorce rates of faith communities.

So it is the counseling. I see your point about the celebrities getting divorced a lot. I didn't look at it like that.

KSig RC · #13 05-09-2007, 11:49 PM

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o.k. I understand that, but why now? It wasn't like this 50 years ago. Was the counseling better then?

Oh my God - are you serious?

It's not that the counseling was better - the sanctions were worse! (both applied by society and family, not to mention the law)

Divorce should probably be even more common than it is right now - people shouldn't stay in unhappy marriages. In the past, they did. It's not rocket science.

ETA: EE-BO's point on choice is spot-on

cheerfulgreek · #14 05-10-2007, 12:44 AM

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Oh my God - are you serious?

It's not that the counseling was better - the sanctions were worse! (both applied by society and family, not to mention the law)

Divorce should probably be even more common than it is right now - people shouldn't stay in unhappy marriages. In the past, they did. It's not rocket science.

ETA: EE-BO's point on choice is spot-on

I disagree. back then people believed in working things out. That was a "we" "us" generation. Today it's about "I" or "me". You might be right about the counseling being better now, but the values were much better back then.

scbelle · #15 05-10-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC

Oh my God - are you serious?

It's not that the counseling was better - the sanctions were worse! (both applied by society and family, not to mention the law)

Divorce should probably be even more common than it is right now - people shouldn't stay in unhappy marriages. In the past, they did. It's not rocket science.

ETA: EE-BO's point on choice is spot-on

absolutely correct... the ramifications of divorce back when were much worse than they are today (religious, societal, familial, legal). Plus, if a couple were to divorce and had children, then a whole host of issues comes up-- who will care for them? Obviously, the mother would have the time, but the father was the one who made the money. In these cases, it just made more sense for a couple to stay together for the children. Today, both parents work (in a lot of cases), so monetary support and time are really moot points. In addition, the advent of the "no-fault" divorce hiked up the numbers because people could get out of marriages without a "fault" or reason.