Selling your own GLO's badges on EBay

[Trey_P-I_47]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm sure he's done great things for the fraternity, but it's usually those "good ol boys" who have their less acceptable attitudes and behaviors overlooked because they're good brothers for example.

Yeah that type of thing has a tendency of happening every where, and it is sad to see it happen

The man in question does seem to cause alot of uproars all over this site though, but like I said, he has always been more than willing to give me a helping hand, so have no place to talk down about him, instead I feel like every now and then he needs someone in his corner fighting with him, and this particular topic struck hoe with me. Mostly because I know what he is trying to do, I mean if I had the $$$$$ I would buy everything he put up (and he would be more than happy for it to end up in my hands), but alas, I have to get through school at some point too, and spending ALL of my money on badges and historical items is not the answer.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

Yeah that type of thing has a tendency of happening every where, and it is sad to see it happen

The man in question does seem to cause alot of uproars all over this site though, but like I said, he has always been more than willing to give me a helping hand, so have no place to talk down about him, instead I feel like every now and then he needs someone in his corner fighting with him, and this particular topic struck hoe with me. Mostly because I know what he is trying to do, I mean if I had the $$$$$ I would buy everything he put up (and he would be more than happy for it to end up in my hands), but alas, I have to get through school at some point too, and spending ALL of my money on badges and historical items is not the answer.

I certainly understand you sticking up for him, at least in this discussion. I still wouldn't sell badges from my own sorority, nor acquire them for any purpose other than collecting (not that I do that either). I'd donate them back to the GLO in question.

As far as you know who, I guess I just wish that things like misogyny didn't only get commented on by the women targeted by the comment. There's no reason why some things should be tolerated. And so on, and so on, ad nauseum... you get the idea.

[kddani]

Funny how the LXA's who are defending this guy just overlook that he IS ripping off people by committing fraud- saying that a 3 year old badge is 103 years old. Obviously y'all either haven't read all of the thread, or you're just choosing to ignore that issue. So YES, your brother is ripping people off, he's committing fraud.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by kddani

Funny how the LXA's who are defending this guy just overlook that he IS ripping off people by committing fraud- saying that a 3 year old badge is 103 years old. Obviously y'all either haven't read all of the thread, or you're just choosing to ignore that issue. So YES, your brother is ripping people off, he's committing fraud.

Maybe all LXA's grow up to be fraudulent, hateful, racist drunks too. *shrug*

[dever860]

Originally Posted by kddani

Funny how the LXA's who are defending this guy just overlook that he IS ripping off people by committing fraud- saying that a 3 year old badge is 103 years old. Obviously y'all either haven't read all of the thread, or you're just choosing to ignore that issue. So YES, your brother is ripping people off, he's committing fraud.

I am very curious about this, since I noticed the ebay item in question was from February. At any point did someone try and contact the seller, or post a thread in the LCA board when you all found out that this item was being sold. I could guarantee for a fact that he made an honest mistake, probably out of elation that he thought he had a very old item and was HOPEFULLY returning it to its own GLO, at less than cost mind you. I find it very hard to believe that this person would refuse to change the listing if he was made aware of the error. I wont lie, if I saw an errornous badge of LCA on ebay I would be only slightly upset. I would try and make the seller aware that he either made a typo, and if it came down to it I would report the auction and probably bitch up a storm if he didn't change it. But to complain about a selling over 2 months after it happened, and expect that the seller is to be burned at the steak is kind of pointless and absurd.

Maybe all LXA's grow up to be fraudulent, hateful, racist drunks too. *shrug*

Generalize much? Generalize incorrectly much?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by dever860

Generalize much? Generalize incorrectly much?

So it's just the seller? Nah, probably not JUST him. But definitely him.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Maybe all LXA's grow up to be fraudulent, hateful, racist drunks too. *shrug*

Nope. Lambda Chi's are the only group of actual gentlemen on this campus. Love my friends, but they aren't gentlemen...Lambda Chi's are.

[Trey_P-I_47]

You need to re-read.......I very clearly addressed that issue.....but YOU are apparently one of the ones who doesnt make ANY mistakes......EVER

Originally Posted by kddani

Funny how the LXA's who are defending this guy just overlook that he IS ripping off people by committing fraud- saying that a 3 year old badge is 103 years old. Obviously y'all either haven't read all of the thread, or you're just choosing to ignore that issue. So YES, your brother is ripping people off, he's committing fraud.

[Trey_P-I_47]

OK I just did a little research, and even though the ADPi Badge was mis-described, the person who bought it still got a deal.

The Alpha Delta Pi NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS sells a plain yellow gold Badge for $80 (White Gold for $95).

www.fratpins.com has 2 plain ones for sale: 1 is $95, and the other is $75.

The person on ebay paid $61.......so even though the description was mistaken, they still got a better deal then other places, even better than the OFFICIAL place.

So what, an inexperienced Badge collector made a mistake, it happens, not everyone is perfect.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

Honestly it shouldnt have been impossible to figure out. If you clicked the links to his ebay, connected LXA and his grammatical errors, it was only a matter of time, but I thought the geniuses on GC would have gotten that figured out about page 1.........oh well.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I didn't click through to the ebay pages I just guessed.

I guessed too!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by kddani

The seller fraudulently misrepresented the ADPi badge. There is no "typo" involved. "While a plain Adelta Delta Pin pin, it is very old!!!!!
Date: 2. 4. 04. Makes this pin around 103 years old."

Granted "Adelta" is a typo, but this pin is three years old, NOT 103. That's a huge difference. This is not at all honest, it is blatantly misrepresenting the truth. And if this person deals in pin collecting like it appears, there is absolutely no excuse for his ignorance. It is fraudulent misrepresentation.

Originally Posted by kddani

Funny how the LXA's who are defending this guy just overlook that he IS ripping off people by committing fraud- saying that a 3 year old badge is 103 years old. Obviously y'all either haven't read all of the thread, or you're just choosing to ignore that issue. So YES, your brother is ripping people off, he's committing fraud.

C'mon, Dani. You know it's not fraud unless there was actual knowledge that the badge was only three years old and an intent to deceive. The seller certainly should have known better, but haven't we all had enough experience to know that doesn't mean he actually did know better?

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

That's something I wonder about...the legalities of selling a badge that is actually owned by an organization. Can we get their auction taken down because of that?

Originally Posted by ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl

Leslie Ann: That sucks. What about people that sell their own bages though? Even though that's probably not the majority of the sellers.

Leslie Ann is right -- there's not a thing HQs can do about it. As has been discussed on GC before, from a legal standpoint (as opposed to a moral or ethical standpoint), these policies and documents stating that the GLO "owns" the badge and the member just "leases" it aren't worth the paper they're written on. First, most such policies were only instituted in the last few decades, so they simply can't apply to members initiated before the policies were put in place. Second, such policies and "lease agreements" are essentially unenforceable.

If a member of a GLO cares about what happens to his or her badge after death, specific instructions need to be left either in funeral instructions (for burial) or a will.

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47

Honestly it shouldnt have been impossible to figure out. If you clicked the links to his ebay, connected LXA and his grammatical errors, it was only a matter of time, but I thought the geniuses on GC would have gotten that figured out about page 1.........oh well.

Some of us did.

[Trey_P-I_47]

My apologies to those who were insulted for figuring it out, There are some really smart people on GC (alot can be learned from this site, pls some wonderful contacts), but there are also plenty of arrogant ones too.