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04-24-2007, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by honeychile
Maybe it would be wise for College Panhellenic Councils to check out EVERY transfer student prior to Recruitment. I don't know how many that would entail on most campuses, but it can't be more than a fourth of those registering - and I for one would like to be sure that people are who they say they are.
It could be just one more step, as registrations come in. Transfer students put in one pile, and alumnae or whomever could spend the time checking out their status. They could then check them off and put them back in with the rest of the applications.
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You know, to this day I suspect that one of my close friends from freshman year (who initiated my chapter Spring semester, then ended up transfering to a school closer to her home in the Fall) tried to go through rush at her new university.
We stayed in touch over the summer (were supposed to be roommates when she came back in the Fall), and then she told me that she wasn't coming back to school in the Fall. She mentioned to me that the university she was transfering to had a chapter, but she didn't feel like she fit in with the girls there. I think she was trying to hint that she was going to rush again, and I casually tried to make the point that she could always choose to remain alumnae and not affiliate with the undergraduate chapter at her new school. We lost touch shortly after that, and I wonder whether she tried to "sneak" through rush to this day.
In retrospect, I should have contacted the chapter at her new school to give them the opportunity to welcome her to campus  ...even if she decided not to affiliate, at least the word would have been out and she would have been busted if she tried to go through rush. (But this all happened the summer between my freshman and sophomore year, so I didn't know how to handle it at the time.)
If any of you were at Towson State University in 1993 and encoutered a PNM who transferred from Michigan State University, PM me and I'll tell you her name. It still bugs me to this day that I never followed up on it.
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04-24-2007, 08:15 AM
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I think what that girl did was very dishonest ... not just to the old group but to new group as well. I'd want her terminated if I was part of the XYP chapter.. but that's just me
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04-24-2007, 09:49 AM
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I don't know if its my orgs form or a schools form but I remember seeing a statement on a recruitment registration form that says something like... "I affirm that I am not now, nor have I ever been, an initiated member of a National Panhellenic Conference sorority" and they had to intial the statement. And then it said something about "If you have ever accepted an invitiation to join an NPC sorority, please list the sorority here." It had some other things too, about financial responsibility etc. but the point is NPC recruitments should include a form which asks these questions. Sure people can lie still, but if they are caught, they can't say they didn't know the rules.
No there is no NPC database and no people don't check--back in the day you used to be able to trust people and take them at their word. I guess not so anymore. Suffice it to say, when people are found out, they usually lose membership in BOTH organizations.
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04-24-2007, 10:20 AM
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I don't know if it would be considered a privacy issue, or some so called great burden to do so, but would it be possible for the NPC to unanimously agree to request all colleges to include the girl's affiliation when it forwards her transcripts to the new schools?
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04-24-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TSteven
I don't know if it would be considered a privacy issue, or some so called great burden to do so, but would it be possible for the NPC to unanimously agree to request all colleges to include the girl's affiliation when it forwards her transcripts to the new schools?
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Privacy issue? No.
Burden that universities wouldn't care to deal with? Yes.
A better idea would to actually have that so-called database that we like to joke about.
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04-24-2007, 10:30 AM
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Privacy issue? No.
Burden that universities wouldn't care to deal with? Yes.
A better idea would to actually have that so-called database that we like to joke about.
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honechile's idea about the local Panhellenic checking up on transfer students isn't such a bad idea either.
Checking on every student who goes through recruitment would be burdensome (and probably a waste of time if the majority of PNMs on that campus are 18 year old freshman). But doing a quick check on the transfer students wouldn't be too bad.
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04-24-2007, 10:34 AM
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A better idea would to actually have that so-called database that we like to joke about.
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In this day and age, it would be simple to maintain. I would guess the start up might be a tad daunting.
Name: Doe, Jane
SS#: 123-45-6789
NPC: ABC
Initiation Chapter: XY
Initiation College: Big State University
Initiation Date: 01/31/2007
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04-24-2007, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TSteven
In this day and age, it would be simple to maintain. I would guess the start up might be a tad daunting.
Name: Doe, Jane
SS#: 123-45-6789
NPC: ABC
Initiation Chapter: XY
Initiation College: Big State University
Initiation Date: 01/31/2007
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That much info wouldn't even be necessary...
Just have each group load SSN's under their name and if there's ever a "hit" the NM Ed. can contact the other group to confirm name, etc.
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04-29-2007, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MeiMeiCat
Well, Iwas pinned by a Sig Ep at my school who transferred (and we broke up)to another school without a SFE chapter and went Pike.  Not sure on the disclosure, but he was a pretty honest guy...I am sure he told them....
So I guess you can do it. Whether it's right or not, I can't say.....it seems dodgy. 
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The OP asked about NPC sororities. There is an NPC unanimous agreement saying that once you join one NPC, you cannot join another.
It's not quite black or white for fraternities.
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04-29-2007, 09:58 PM
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Um, sorry. Didn't mean to solicit such a rude reply. I just thought I would share. Won't make that mistake again.  And I am not an idiot, I know what NPC is. Just thought another anecdote might add to the discussion. 
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Oh, honey, that wasn't even a rude reply. She was just clarifying that the NPC was different. Please take the tone as straightforward and explanatory. You'd know if it was rude.
ETA: This is kind of putting words in your mouth again, OTW, and I apologize. But I couldn't help but think, Oh no, a rude reply would be much different.
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