Harry Potter Speculation

Drolefille · #1 04-23-2007, 05:40 PM

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1. If James is Snape, why would he hate him so much? He's only done right by Harry once (saving him from Quirrel's jinx) and that was purely so that, by doing that good deed, he could go one hating James' memory with peace of mind.

2. I don't think Sirius is gone forever (though I think JKR may have said he is), but Harry doesn't have the mirror. If I'm not mistaken, didn't he smash it when it didn't work?

3. This is true, but I think he will face Voldy on his own. It's in the prophecy that one must kill the other (according to Dumbledore). Says nothing about friends. Though it'd be a good thought that the 3 would band together against Voldemort, it'd be a better cinematic move to have Harry do it alone.

1.I agree, James in Snape (or whatever) is waaaaay out there.

2. I forgot that he smashed the mirror. It's definately time to reread the books. I think JKR forgot that Sirirus gave it to Harry and had to write the mirror back out of the book. It is however unclear what exactly the veil is or does so there is some vague hope (except for the fact that Harry is losing adult aid, not getting more).

3.I'm still torn. While I agree, it's a classic hero move that Harry will have to face Voldemort alone, I'm just not sure we can count out the DA as well as Hermione and Ron. But I don't think the prophecy says that Harry must kill Voldemort. Just that neither can live while the other survives.

What about Neville. I think he's going to play a greater role. We know he's found his skills in herbology, but I can't help but think that he'll make an even better showing of himself than he did in the DA. It's almost required since his parents suffered so horribly.

lyrelyre · #2 04-23-2007, 08:43 PM

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But I don't think the prophecy says that Harry must kill Voldemort. Just that neither can live while the other survives.

"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches... born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives... the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies..."

I think Harry must kill Voldemort.

Drolefille · #3 04-23-2007, 09:13 PM

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"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches... born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives... the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies..."

I think Harry must kill Voldemort.

Bleh

To be fair.. Harry doesn't HAVE to kill Voldemort. Voldemort could just kill Harry. Sorry the "neither can live" part is the only one that sticks in my head.

christiangirl · #4 04-23-2007, 09:16 PM

I don't get this whole 'neither can live while the other survives' stuff. CLEARLY they've been doing it for 15 years now.

I don't know, I just feel like if Sirius was really dead and gone, then what was the point of Luna saying all that stuff about people behind the veil and how 'We'll see them again soon enough' and all that?

She's toying with my emotions, this woman...

Drolefille · #5 04-23-2007, 10:17 PM

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I don't get this whole 'neither can live while the other survives' stuff. CLEARLY they've been doing it for 15 years now.

I don't know, I just feel like if Sirius was really dead and gone, then what was the point of Luna saying all that stuff about people behind the veil and how 'We'll see them again soon enough' and all that?

She's toying with my emotions, this woman...

Maybe she can't decide herself (or couldn't, I assume she's figured it out by now)

Well, it's only since Book 4 that Voldemort has truly been "Alive." But I always read it more like "continue to live" rather than "be alive right now"

I've been listening to the audiobooks that I *cough*Got quite legally from a library I swear and didn't download into large mp3 files*cough* I decided to do my rereading this way ever since I caught a reference to Sirius in Book 1 that I hadn't noticed for YEARS (First chapter, it's Sirius' motorcycle that Hagrid is riding) I'm in the middle of Azkaban right now

christiangirl · #6 04-23-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

I've been listening to the audiobooks that I *cough*Got quite legally from a library I swear and didn't download into large mp3 files*cough* I decided to do my rereading this way ever since I caught a reference to Sirius in Book 1 that I hadn't noticed for YEARS (First chapter, it's Sirius' motorcycle that Hagrid is riding) I'm in the middle of Azkaban right now

Do you need a glass of water? You can have some of mine...I had that same cough a couple months ago when I went through all the audiobooks

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I'm in the middle of Azkaban, too! Only I'm reading it....and I really did get mine from the library

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Drolefille · #7 04-24-2007, 12:48 AM

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Do you need a glass of water? You can have some of mine...I had that same cough a couple months ago when I went through all the audiobooks

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I'm in the middle of Azkaban, too! Only I'm reading it....and I really did get mine from the library

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Ha, no I'm doing a bit better once Trevor left my throat

I do hate that they're one huge mp3 though, it means that I turn it on on my computer rather than burning it and listening in the car.

I'll probably reread too this summer once I steal the books from home. (Seriously, every time we get 3 copies of each book. There are 4 kids plus my mom. Do I get a copy? No. I get to read it first since I'm the fastest then pass it on.)

christiangirl · #8 04-25-2007, 03:01 AM

^^^I won't do it!! I won't!

Okay, this doesn't really go with the thread because I'm reminiscing, not predicting, but so what. I'm toward the end of PoA and having some trouble making sense of this. Harry, Ron, and Hermione went to see Hagrid at sunset because that's when Buckbeak's trial/execution was set and Remus said the Map showed they'd been in Hagrid's hut 20 minutes before leaving. Now, DD had Harry and Hermione go back 3 hours time. It was 5 minutes to midnight (11:55) when he said it, so they went back to 8:55pm. So, if they made a plan, followed themselves out to the hut, waited 20 minutes to come out, it was about 9:20 when the trial started at sunset. Since when does the sun go down at 9:20pm? Even in June, that doesn't sound plausible!

Somebody clearly didn't think I'd sit around thinking about this...

lyrelyre · #9 04-24-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

To be fair.. Harry doesn't HAVE to kill Voldemort. Voldemort could just kill Harry.

Touche (I really hope not though)

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I always read it more like "continue to live" rather than "be alive right now"

I also think it could mean that neither can truly live while the other survives