Beta back at USC and Miami (FL)

[Coramoor]

Whoa there ZZ...settle down some.

There obviously is some problems. Dry house...well, again like I've said I don't understand this crusade against alcohol. Large chapter yes...but there has been no continuity. Many chapters have the option to pick and choose who they want in their brotherhood. That alone cuts back on 90% of the problems. Active advisers are great...unless they are intimidating the undergrads. It's an undergrad chapter, alumni had their chance! Let the undergrads run it how they want, but alumni are there to give advice.

Once again MOP is causing far more problems than it's solving.

[GammaTauKai]

as far meeting goals go, we're doing well at USC, however, like Rastaone said, there's too much diversity in our house, and it's not a good thing. Diversity is good, but when you have 70+ members, with the house split into 5 or 6 different directions, it's really hard to get much agreement or collaboration as to what direction the house is going in.

and yes, I believe MOP is causing more problems than its rectified.

[furmanbeta]

Dry House sucks. MOP sucks. Having overbearing advisers and the AO looking over your shoulder perpetually, sucks. Yeah, you need to do what you can to start these guys off in the right direction, but in the end, you've got to let them choose their own course. There's nowhere near enough trust in the undergrads these days.

[Coramoor]

True...also look at the men they have as consultants.

They are not bad guys...but I wouldn't consider them leaders by any stretch of the imagination. When I was active, they were often my age (maybe even younger?) and....intimidated by the brothers of my chapter.

If you just listened to them it was ok, but when you started asking questions they quickly became nervous, flushed, stuttering, etc.

I think that Beta needs to reach out to older alumni to be consultants etc. Men that have some experience under their belt instead of a just graduated young person. Although it is much easier to brainwash young people...