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04-12-2007, 10:28 AM
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I believe the correct term is "judgment-proof." Anyway, I'm wondering if they'd just rather end all the legal stuff and get this over with. This has been hanging over their heads for long enough, a civil suit would just keep it hanging over them longer.
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I believe they all said they weren't going to do anything else.
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04-12-2007, 11:24 AM
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I heard that they couldn't sue because he's a public figure and therefore has immunity (this was either tv but I think radio news)
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04-12-2007, 06:46 PM
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I heard that they couldn't sue because he's a public figure and therefore has immunity (this was either tv but I think radio news)
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But she doesn't. (Not that she has assets worth suing over or that it's a good course of action.)
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Reason: taking out a comma
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04-12-2007, 07:00 PM
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I never bothered to read many of the full statement by the faculty members, not just the big group one but the, apparently from what I've read about them, more extreme individual statements.
Maybe they are some of the folks the players ought to actually try to recover damages from for defamation, libel and slander.
I feel bad for the accuser, as perverse as that sounds. Of course not as bad as I do about the victims of her false accusations. But the circumstances of her life, especially before this incident really seem to suck for reasons beyond those of her own making.
She does need to be punished, however, if it turns out that her statements can be proven to be false. And I think there's a chance as Nifong defends himself from charges against him, that the nature of her accusations and how they didn't match the evidence will become more clear.
No matter what, it's not appropriate that now that the charges didn't stick at any level, that the media and everyone just kind of shrug and lose interests with kind of a "Oh, well it turned out that these particular rich white athletes weren't rapist but that doesn't mean what we said wasn't generally true" attitude. The people who screwed up these guys' lives need to be held responsible.
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04-12-2007, 08:00 PM
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Not only were the charges dropped, but North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper ". . .didn't just dismiss all the remaining charges against Evans, Seligmann and Finnerty. He took the extra step of declaring the players innocent . . ." according to the AP.
The prosecutor may be disbarred. I think it may fairly be said that the stripper's accusations have been found to be false.
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04-12-2007, 11:57 AM
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I believe they all said they weren't going to do anything else.
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Ok; I can't imagine how I would feel being in their position, how angry I would be at the process.
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04-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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IMUS: 'WHEN WILL SHARPTON APOLOGIZE TO DUKE PLAYERS'?
Thu Apr 12 2007 10:02:02 ET
Patrick Gavin with FISHBOWLDC reports on Imus's radio show this am...
Barely 12 hours after being fired from MSNBC...
6:12 AM: On Imus' radio program (no longer simulcast on MSNBC) this morning, Chris Carlin, who covers sports for the program, discussed yesterday's dismissal of charges against the Duke lacrosse players.
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DON IMUS: When will Al Sharpton be apologizing to them?
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CARLIN: I'm unaware of such a press conference.
IMUS: I'll be darned...
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04-12-2007, 01:00 PM
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Get lost Zippy, go write some Duke rape porn or something.
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04-12-2007, 01:00 PM
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I found someone who still cares about this case, but no longer from the guilty/not guilty perspective.
Women's groups, rape victim rights activists and concerned citizens are wondering if putting the accusers' information out there is premature and dangerous. But the same argument was made by others for having the lacrosse players' information out there before a "sound case" was established.
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04-12-2007, 02:26 PM
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when women make false accusations of rape or abuse it can make it harder for a legitimate victim to be believed. i think that that is a more important subject for women's groups, rape victims rights activists and concerned citizens to concern themselves with.
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04-12-2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FSUZeta
when women make false accusations of rape or abuse it can make it harder for a legitimate victim to be believed. i think that that is a more important subject for women's groups, rape victims rights activists and concerned citizens to concern themselves with.
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It hasn't been proven that the accusations are false.
It has only been established that there isn't enough evidence to go forward.
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04-12-2007, 02:52 PM
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It hasn't been proven that the accusations are false.
It has only been established that there isn't enough evidence to go forward.
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While it can be impossible to prove a negative, way too much of this story has fallen through from start to finish. Those guys might have been assholes, but they're not rapists.
If you're innocent until proven guilty, than the accusation should be doubted unless substantiated.
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04-12-2007, 04:52 PM
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i believe that the north carolina attorney general pronounced the three young men innocent in his statement yesterday.
and i did not say that womens groups, etc. should protest, only that they and we should be concerned that women making false accusations could make it harder for a real victim to have her story believed.
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