The Term African American

[7thSonofOsiris]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

First of all the "title" South African is NOT a race but a NATIONALITY. We were speaking on RACE as a social construct (i.e. black, white, latino, asian, etc.) White people, descendents of British settlers, and anyone else born in S. Africa are South Africans (national identity), just like a person born in the U.S is an American, just like someone born in Mexico is a Mexican. What you are talking about, from what I gather from your post(s) is colonization issues not 'race' issues. It may appear to be a 'race' issue because the parties involved are of different 'races', but what you seem to be concerned with is colonization. In many cases a discussion of 'race' runs parallel to that of colonization but they are not one in the same.

Ch2tf,

Hey buddy!!!! I just want to add that, when defining a white person born in South Africa, the ethnotype is defined as South Afrikkaner. This is done specifically to make the distinction between blacks born in South Africa and whites born there. Sista, I hope tha you don't mind me trying to help school your catamitish ass, cause I do so out of love.

7th

[Sista]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

Ch2tf,

Hey buddy!!!! I just want to add that, when defining a white person born in South Africa, the ethnotype is defined as South Afrikkaner. This is done specifically to make the distinction between blacks born in South Africa and whites born there. Sista, I hope tha you don't mind me trying to help school your catamitish ass, cause I do so out of love.

7th

I am trying to find a source as we speak but you haven't heard about Whites residing in South Africa who are fighting for the right to be seen as African? These same people, most who were prominent figures in the apartheid movement, refuse to fill out census forms in which they would have to identify themselves as either African, White, Indian or Chinese. The same people who, back then during the apartheid regime, wanted nothing to be associated with blcak people and their cultures. Now that the tables have turned they want to be called the sons and daughters of the soil. What a joke!

[RU OX Alum]

here is a question....

why would the current south african government let anyone associated with the apart-tied (when even close friends were tied away from each other by instutionalized racialism [racism is different]) government stay in the country after the regime change?

also, do they still have three capitals?

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

here is a question....

why would the current south african government let anyone associated with the apart-tied (when even close friends were tied away from each other by instutionalized racialism [racism is different]) government stay in the country after the regime change?

also, do they still have three capitals?

Remember this: economically, there was not a revolution per se. Whites were and still are the monied elites in the nation. The govt. has had to work with this reality, while attempting to open economic opportunities for blacks and other groups. Case in point: a brother in my present graduate chapter went to South Africa a few weeks ago on vacation. When he was Johanessburg, he went to an upscale restaurant. The only blacks there were the wait staff. When he entered the door the hostess warmly welcomed him and went out of her way to cater to him, remarking she was glad to see a black person there as a patron. So, in many ways, economically and socially, there is still de facto apartheid.