Question: Does anyone ever see the NPC allowing inclusion of a 27th group?

[tallgreekalum]

What happened in 1951? Did NPC change it's admission policy that year?

[fantASTic]

Would joining NPC help people's membership to grow? I'm not sure how the recruitment for non-NPC works; I know the Divine Nine, on my campus, do "if you are interested, you contact us" for recruitment and do fairly well. But wouldn't being able to be a part of formal recruitment help? Or can non-NPC groups participate in that?

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Would joining NPC help people's membership to grow? I'm not sure how the recruitment for non-NPC works; I know the Divine Nine, on my campus, do "if you are interested, you contact us" for recruitment and do fairly well. But wouldn't being able to be a part of formal recruitment help? Or can non-NPC groups participate in that?

I think joining NPC would help because there are lots of people (myself included) that didn't come from areas where sorority membership was something you know about all your life. Having any kind of structured recruitment with a governing council makes recruitment more visible (in my opinion) so you have more of a chance of getting people that may not have otherwise thought of joining greek life.

I don't know how NAFLO-based orgs do their recruitment, but if it's anything like it was on my old campus, they would just approach random girls in the square or student union and hand out fliers and try to to find people interested that way.

I don't know if it [joining NPC] would help smaller regional/local sororities grow because formal recruitment usually puts a cap (quota) on the number of women you can bring in, whereas if they did not join NPC, they could take 100-new member classes if they had the interest. At the same time, NPC-recruitment does not guarantee a chapter's success (as far as membership growing). They may extend 50 bids, but maybe only 15 of them end up "matching".

I think there are lots of variables that would have to be taken into consideration before determining if it's the best thing for the organization.

I would guess that restrictions on expansion, and recruitment are some of the main factors that keep non-affiliated regional sororities from trying to join NPC.

Additionally, if they want to remain small chapters, they can if they stay regional and won't be "pressured" to grow if they don't want to. There may be a school with 6 chapters for example, 4 of which are consistently at or above total, 1 that is trailing maybe 40 or 50 members behind, and another house that has only a handful of members.

I think on some campuses where local or regional sororities are affilate members, they may or may not participate in formal recruitment?

[AEPhiSierra]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Briana - Kappa Beta Gamma used to be a member of NPC but their number of chapters dropped to the point that they had to drop out. They were Catholic based when they were founded but like TPA, they now accept women of all faiths. They are trying to re-enter the NPC.

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by AEPhiSierra

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

Sheila knows all.

I just looked at their National website, and it could use some help. It refers to their sisters as Alumni, instead of Alumnae and says that they would like to become Pan-Hellenic (which I would assume, if I didn't know different to be NPHC) affiliated, instead of National Panhellenic (as in NPC).

[PenguinTrax]

Originally Posted by AEPhiSierra

Are you sure Kappa Beta Gamma was actually a member of NPC? While I've heard this before, I have never heard any references to specific dates for them entering or leaving NPC.

I either have the information at home in a book or it's online here on the site, 'cause I know it's been discussed before.

ETA: Link

[33girl]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Isn't Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta also members of the NIC? I think the difference is that NIC is different than NPC in that NPC orgs have all agreed to run membership recruitment within a specific system, while NIC hasn't (please correct me if I'm wrong NPC'ers). So given that Sigma Lambda Gamma's recruitment style is more similar to NPHC orgs, it would probably be difficult to switch to a different style if they became members of NPC.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head.

Originally Posted by tallgreekalum

What happened in 1951? Did NPC change it's admission policy that year?

1951 was the year that the former members of the AES became full members. There are only 3 left out of the original AES 6. That same year 5 other groups were admitted, several of which had a religious foundation.

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

I either have the information at home in a book or it's online here on the site, 'cause I know it's been discussed before.

ETA: Link

I actually have no record of us being involved with NPC, so I would be thrilled to find out truth behind this. If anyone really does have records of our membership it would be greatly appreciated. However, as far as I and everyone else that has been involved with nationals since probably 1994 knows, we were never NPC.

We've actually been having problems with NPC over the past year, in that we have been treated like a local from the standpoint of regional panhell and national once it came straight down to it. Loyola Chicago allowed "expansion" this past semester and gave permission to NPC to take over one of our chapters. Because we weren't NPC, we were not treated with the respect a national organization deserves by the school's Panhell advisor (who is out next year, thank god), nor NPC nationally. This kind of leaves us in an ugly situation with NOT wanting to be NPC because of the lack of respect we've recieved from them, yet WANTING to be NPC because we would have way less fights with administrations when it comes to expansion, or even situations such as that at Loyola. We would have quite a way to go yet though before becoming NPC would even be an option again.

And yes, I know our website needs major updating. I should have it fixed fairly soon.

[PenguinTrax]

BootyKBG -

I"ll try and find the information this weekend and post it for you. I *think* it may be in the Sorority Handbook by Ida Shaw Martin or in my 1930's Bairds.

Barbara

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

Ida

[OrigamiTulip]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

BootyKBG -

I"ll try and find the information this weekend and post it for you. I *think* it may be in the Sorority Handbook by Ida Shaw Martin or in my 1930's Bairds.

Barbara

It's not in the 1931 Sorority Handbook. I just got my hands on a copy of it last weekend - very neat book. Like a mini Baird's Manual.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by BootyKBG

I actually have no record of us being involved with NPC, so I would be thrilled to find out truth behind this. If anyone really does have records of our membership it would be greatly appreciated. However, as far as I and everyone else that has been involved with nationals since probably 1994 knows, we were never NPC.

We've actually been having problems with NPC over the past year, in that we have been treated like a local from the standpoint of regional panhell and national once it came straight down to it. Loyola Chicago allowed "expansion" this past semester and gave permission to NPC to take over one of our chapters. Because we weren't NPC, we were not treated with the respect a national organization deserves by the school's Panhell advisor (who is out next year, thank god), nor NPC nationally. This kind of leaves us in an ugly situation with NOT wanting to be NPC because of the lack of respect we've recieved from them, yet WANTING to be NPC because we would have way less fights with administrations when it comes to expansion, or even situations such as that at Loyola. We would have quite a way to go yet though before becoming NPC would even be an option again.

And yes, I know our website needs major updating. I should have it fixed fairly soon.

I know a few girls from a chapter that would NOT be happy about becoming NPC.

[BootyKBG]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I know a few girls from a chapter that would NOT be happy about becoming NPC.

Well its not really an issue now, as we only have 5 active chapters at this time.

[PenguinTrax]

I think my handbook is pre-1930. I have an early 30's Baird's, too.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by PenguinTrax

I have an early 30's Baird's, too.

Barbara, do check there -- my 1968 Baird's has no mention of any NPC connection for Kappa Beta Gamma.