South vs. North?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

FYI: Y'all is also used all over the Midwest......

NO.

[DSTCHAOS]

I never thought of "ya'll" as southern so much as it is short for "you all." I've heard it in some form in every region of this country. It's the accent that makes the difference.

LOL @ "ya'll" being dissected and expounded upon as if it's integral to anything.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It's the accent that makes the difference.

Exactly - someone from Milwaukee could say "y'all", but it's just not the same as say, someone from Greenville, SC.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

*PFG depends on the style......and what time of year.....where you are (suburbs, city, beach, etc.)....just like any other piece of clothing.

haha.....no.....it doesn't.....and I don't even know what you are talking about. What time of year? PFG just means Performance Fishing Gear. Styles of PFG are Bonehead, Bahama II, etc. There are also PFG shorts. Quit arguing. It doesn't make a difference whether you are wearing one on the Gulf Coast or in Kentucky.....its still a PFG.

Columbia PFG:

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

NO.

In many states that are Midwestern, but border on the South, the southern part of the state often identifies and uses 'southern' terms. Southern Missouri and southern Illinois are prime examples. You will constantly hear "Y'all". Many of the people in these areas move to the St. Louis area (where ChildoftheHorn is from). They carry the terms with them. My family live in St. Charles, Mo for a while when I was a kid. My sister, in the 1st grade, was almost sent to speech therapy because the school was concerned with how she was talking. Luckily, one of the teacher aides lived next door to my family. When she heard Cindi was being considered for speech therapy, Mrs. P said: "She doesn't need speech therapy! She's from southern Missouri, they all talk like that!"

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

In many states that are Midwestern, but border on the South, the southern part of the state often identifies and uses 'southern' terms. Southern Missouri and southern Illinois are prime examples. You will constantly hear "Y'all". Many of the people in these areas move to the St. Louis area (where ChildoftheHorn is from). They carry the terms with them. My family live in St. Charles, Mo for a while when I was a kid. My sister, in the 1st grade, was almost sent to speech therapy because the school was concerned with how she was talking. Luckily, one of the teacher aides lived next door to my family. When she heard Cindi was being considered for speech therapy, Mrs. P said: "She doesn't need speech therapy! She's from southern Missouri, they all talk like that!"

Southern MO & IL are different then "the Midwest". They are geographically in the Midwest, but are definetly not Chicago or Des Moines.

[ChildoftheHorn]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

When she heard Cindi was being considered for speech therapy, Mrs. P said: "She doesn't need speech therapy! She's from southern Missouri, they all talk like that!"

There is a lot of differences throughout the state of MO. Like when you are in MO, you call it Missourah - and outside you say Missouree! Basically like saying Misery only with the emphasis on the back end of the word.

I will say that I have lived in the Chicago suburbs for a while and noticed that the accent changes as you go from the northern suburbs to the southern ones. I can use y'all every once in a while on the northwest subs, but not in the southern ones I have been to.

Some main differences are just in the slang:I say soda and people here say pop. I say "Warsh" instead of "Wash". Other than that, it is not that much different.

If you head to Kentucky, it is going to be a much different accent than Georgia......and both will be way off of southern Louisiana (I cannot understand it at all. Its is not english or french; I don't get it.)

* As to what people have said before about my comments on PFG:
It is normal stuff to wear in the summer/early fall here, but not winter. It gets too cold where I live and most people are covered with wool. In the western states (Colorado where my uncle lives) its pretty normal year round stuff. In Chicago, you will see an equal mix of Orvis, Columbia, and some Stern's. It is just worn when the weather picks up!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

It just seemed more than a little overstated by starting his statement like that. He didn't need to, but he did it to make sure that everyone knew he was.

With all due respect, I'm not following what you are saying. Why you feel "he didn't need to..."?

Sure, maybe "he didn't need to" start off his statement with y'all. But my guess is that it came natural to him. And as a Southerner, I can attest that starting a sentence with y'all is not overstating anything. It is very common for Southerners to do so naturally. It is our way of speech.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

* As to what people have said before about my comments on PFG:
It is normal stuff to wear in the summer/early fall here, but not winter. It gets too cold where I live and most people are covered with wool. In the western states (Colorado where my uncle lives) its pretty normal year round stuff. In Chicago, you will see an equal mix of Orvis, Columbia, and some Stern's. It is just worn when the weather picks up!

I understand what you are trying to say now......you just went about it in a really odd manner in your previous posts.

[shinerbock]

I was referring to people being idiotic. I really prefer not to say "You guys" and I don't want to spell out "you all."

As for venturing outside of the south, I'm probably better traveled than the majority of people on this board. Believe it or not, we does leave the trailer every now and again to go to town.

[ChildoftheHorn]

It just seemed a little contrived because it didn't flow quite right. Whenever you use some part of speech, it has a certain flow to it. It is kind of like how I would never use the sentence " This Twinkie is Divine " because it does not flow correctly. If I ate Twinkies, I would describe them as being "tasty" or "good". It is the same sort of thing.

I admit though, that my speech is only in its currect state because of etiquette classes at the insistance of my grandmother (yay DAR and junior league?) and private school when I was in elementary.

There has got to be someone else here who has lived in southern areas and northern ones!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

It just seemed a little contrived because it didn't flow quite right. Whenever you use some part of speech, it has a certain flow to it. It is kind of like how I would never use the sentence " This Twinkie is Divine " because it does not flow correctly. If I ate Twinkies, I would describe them as being "tasty" or "good". It is the same sort of thing.

Ummm....What?

And for the record - I went to Western Il U, and now live south of Charlotte, NC.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

It just seemed a little contrived because it didn't flow quite right. Whenever you use some part of speech, it has a certain flow to it. It is kind of like how I would never use the sentence " This Twinkie is Divine " because it does not flow correctly. If I ate Twinkies, I would describe them as being "tasty" or "good". It is the same sort of thing.

I admit though, that my speech is only in its currect state because of etiquette classes at the insistance of my grandmother (yay DAR and junior league?) and private school when I was in elementary.

There has got to be someone else here who has lived in southern areas and northern ones!

Good grief.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

It just seemed a little contrived because it didn't flow quite right. Whenever you use some part of speech, it has a certain flow to it. It is kind of like how I would never use the sentence " This Twinkie is Divine " because it does not flow correctly. If I ate Twinkies, I would describe them as being "tasty" or "good". It is the same sort of thing.

Hardly.

Pay attention. Everyone posting who actually lives in the South agrees that it was about as normal use of the word as one could have. My DAR grandmother would have said the same thing.

I admit though, that my speech is only in its currect state because of etiquette classes at the insistance of my grandmother (yay DAR and junior league?) and private school when I was in elementary.

Ah, now we get it. Folks who use "y'all" are stupid, ignorant or lacking in refinement or the ability to speak in a flowing manner. Why didn't you just say that?

Might was well stay in the trailer, shinerbock.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

"She doesn't need speech therapy! She's from southern Missouri, they all talk like that!"

LOL, do you mean the infamous St. Louis drawl?