?*PAPER MADE*???

[RitaMae1908]

Originally Posted by BlueNYC2

yo this whole pledge vs paper bullshit is exactly just that...BULLSHIT!!! it doesnt matter how you got it, it wat you're doin once you're in. i know plenty of people who were MADE, but them niggas aint financial now, or if they are, they aint doin shit. if you're MADE, cool, do some work neo!!! if you're paper, cool, so be it...do some work neo!!! i aint even gonna go into this shit any further cuz its just fuckin stupid...thats my $19.14 about this shit...


GOMAB OR GO HOME!!!

I hear that BLUENYC2... this is some bull! What it boils down too is this: Are you joining XYZ organization because you believe in perpetuating the ideals for which it was founded???
If you're (OneLovve) joining to wear 'Nalia, throw up signs, and stroll at parties, and/or for social status then save your self (or your parents) a couple "bills" and don't waste your own or the organizations time. Greek life my not be for you. This is a LIFETIME membership, period.

Good luck whatever you decide.

[nonchalant]

Excuse me for coming in as a non-Greek and putting my two cents in. I felt as if I wanted to comment because the topic interested me a whole lot. For those who have read my previous post before when I was outted about my mishap back in 2001 due to someone posting a PM I sent them, you can see why I commented here. I am very aware of the MIP process. Especially pertaining to one particular organization and how it works. There is a big controversy with certain members of organizations who feel that being 'paper' is not the right way to go which leads to you not being respected by those individuals and lacking pertinent information pertaining to your organization. Trust, I know this first hand. A lot of my friends are Greek and know my situation. I know their stories as well. Anyway, MIP is what it is. However, we all know that hazing/pledging still does exist. I have a friend that just went through her MIP process, received her letters, and was asked if she wanted to be pledged to continue her knowledge process. She called me and asked me what to do. I told her no. I educated her that she is already a recognized member. Anything that she doesn't know, she can obtain the information via her sorors or another source. To make a long story short, she ended up not learning a whole lot of information about her organization within that short period of time. She knew nothing of the unofficial symbols and what they stood for. She didn't know how to hold her hand sign and barely knew the handshake. She didn't know important points of the history of her organization. Hell, she didn't even get her history book for over 3 months after she was pinned. With all this being said, she felt that she did not want to attend any sorority functions. What if she was to be challenged by a soror and was not able to answer a question? That is a very uncomfortable feeling. However, she is learning all things she has lacked via MIP. She is becoming more comfortable and more educated daily. However, you have to find open-minded people within an organization that will teach you things you have missed out on that they may feel you should have learned during your process. She has ran into some of her sorors that felt she should have learned this information in MIP, and they wouldn't educate her. Yep, that's sisterhood all right. All in all, I feel there is nothing wrong with being paper. You'll earn respect as you go along and continue learning for the rest of your life. After all, you are joining the organization because you are fond of its foundation/principles. You shouldn't join it because you don't want to be paper. That's just a term people made up. You will still be part of the organization. Don't let the stereotypes of the organization make you. Let your morals and good deeds help make the organization.

Good luck OneLovve in any and everything that you are trying to achieve. If your heart is really in the organization, it shouldn't matter how you make it in nor what chapter you go through. If that really matters to you, then you should rethink trying to join. If not, you shouldn't let anything/anyone discourage you.

[GRACED2BSGRHO]

I have two cousins that while in undergrad, pledged a particular sorority. They went through the "Pledge" process. The sad fact is neither of them is active to this day. The reason being and we have had this conversation on many occassions is that in hindsight they felt like the being "made" process they went through was excessive and unncessary.

They are so turned off by their sorority that the mere mention of being active turns them off. In the long run how did that process help them or the organization. It didn't! Now you have two individuals as well as many others who don't even want to have anything to do with their organization.

The whole purpose for me to join a sorority was one to help through volunteering and other aspects of community service. Secondly it was to enjoy a sisterhood, with like minded women who all bring something unique to the table and to our organization.

Like one poster stated its not as easy as people think to go through MIP. There is no skating in as some may think.

As for the young lady that posted this thread initially. Consider what are your real motives for wanting to become a member of that particular sisterhood. make sure they are correct, if not you might want to re-evaluate even attempting to membership of that Sorority. Thats just my .22 cents !

[DST4A00]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

OneLovve:

I found the most illustrious Sorority for you!!!

This chapter PLEDGES with some hazing...

But I'm sorry, they wear these cute orange jumpsuits and little jelly plastic sandals. Your line sister--brother for the day will be Bubba and you will get a daily beatdown from the opposing group, The Aryan Brotherhood/Sisterhood. They have an isolation chamber--I mean, meditation room. And at your chapter house, you have to share with several other criminals, errr, inmate, I mean chapter members.

I can dial for your central booking--a-hem, full of paper made intake process and you will be a full member for within ~24 hours+...

It's at the University of Hard Knocks. They have ~50 chapters in every state! And you get to interact with legal council in a jar...

Good luck with your application. You don't need a GPA or units!!!

This is so exciting to me!!!

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[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DST4A00

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Cell Block "Death Row Inmates".

There's a difference between an inmate and a convict...

[Akception]

Originally Posted by DST4A00

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Sorority call: "Help!"

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Akception

Sorority call: "Help!"

LOL!

[Akception]

If you're (OneLovve) joining to wear 'Nalia, throw up signs, and stroll at parties, and/or for social status then save your self (or your parents) a couple "bills" and don't waste your own or the organizations time. Greek life my not be for you.

Let's find out if greek life is for OneLovve...pick the hottest day in the summer and go help with the beautification of a particular part of town, or instead of rolling over on Martin's Day, go march and sing, or go raise monies for scholarships in your area, or work at the homeless shelter, or get off work and go tutor kids, or go paint somebody's house that you don't know, or build houses for habitat for humanity, or...get my drift? That is a drop in the bucket in regards to what greeks are doing, old and young! I am sure everyone else with their .08 cents could go on and on about the hard work they exude their in chapters...but the reality is this, I remember when I had my epiphany and realized that it wasn't about me, but how I could change the condition of life around me.

[HOLLAIFYOUHEARM]

To those who are concerned about being "paper"


First let me say that I crossed the burning sands 04/17/1993 at 12:38 a.m. when "pledging" was considered banned ( In 1990 there was a concerted effort by the Divine 9 to implement a new intake process). Anyway this was the process at the university that I attended as a matter of fact each active sorority/fraternity(within the Divine 9) had to see you before you crossed. I know this sounds strange but thats just the way it was and I must say that I don't regret it. I love my sands and my sorority sisters. My point is the important aspect is the respect that you have for yourself and the organization that you want to be a part of. Please know that this is a personal decision that you will have to make. Sororities look for those with good character, leadership skills, scholarship, and who will display finerwomanhood so don't worry about being "paper" just don't be "plastic" - a shell of a soror who wears the colors, does the call, and yet knows nothing at all.

And to all of my sorors - ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPHIIIIIIIIII AND TO MY FRAT BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPHIIIIIII

YOU KNOW JUST LOVE

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[starang21]

LOLOL

[RitaMae1908]

Originally Posted by HOLLAIFYOUHEARM

To those who are concerned about being "paper"


First let me say that I crossed the burning sands 04/17/1993 at 12:38 a.m. when "pledging" was considered banned ( In 1990 there was a concerted effort by the Divine 9 to implement a new intake process). Anyway this was the process at the university that I attended as a matter of fact each active sorority/fraternity(within the Divine 9) had to see you before you crossed. I know this sounds strange but thats just the way it was and I must say that I don't regret it. I love my sands and my sorority sisters. My point is the important aspect is the respect that you have for yourself and the organization that you want to be a part of. Please know that this is a personal decision that you will have to make. Sororities look for those with good character, leadership skills, scholarship, and who will display finerwomanhood so don't worry about being "paper" just don't be "plastic" - a shell of a soror who wears the colors, does the call, and yet knows nothing at all.

And to all of my sorors - ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPHIIIIIIIIII AND TO MY FRAT BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPHIIIIIII

YOU KNOW JUST LOVE

NEW BLOG
HOLLAIFYOUHEARME2.BLOGSPOT.COM

Very well put...

[Cloud5_DST]

This is a very interesting topic. Although I might be "beating a dead horse," I have a quick comment to make...

To the original poster, you have a decision to make. If you have searched yourself and decided upon an organization, I can understand that you might be hesistant to dedicate yourself, for a lifetime, to an organization only to have people in this new community chastise you for how you got there. You need to decide what is more important: You pursuing membership and (hopefully) becoming a member of an org that you connect with through a chapter that, as it sounds, is "doing the damn thing" work-wise, OR denying yourself a chance because of how you would obtain membership.

The point is, when you graduate, and if the organization is still in your heart, your only option will be an alumnae chapter. If you think you are going to "earn" some letters anymore there than you would in the current undergrad chapter, in *MOST* cases, you would be wrong. (I won't assume that for all cases.) Anyway, if what you want is the respect, then by all means, don't join the organization through that chapter. You aren't ready to work for the organization in spite of what others think of your journey, whatever it may be. However, if you want to earn the letters, however you think that happens, you may never get the chance. Just think about it long and hard.

Guess it wasn't so quick... Sorry! lol

~J

[Granny]

Originally Posted by HOLLAIFYOUHEARM

Anyway this was the process at the university that I attended as a matter of fact each active sorority/fraternity(within the Divine 9) had to see you before you crossed.

That was back in the day when everybody was tight and people would not call your National Headquarters.

Sororities look for those with good character, leadership skills, scholarship, and who will display finerwomanhood so don't worry about being "paper" just don't be "plastic" - a shell of a soror who wears the colors, does the call, and yet knows nothing at all.

PREACH SOROR!

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by HOLLAIFYOUHEARM

Anyway this was the process at the university that I attended as a matter of fact each active sorority/fraternity(within the Divine 9) had to see you before you crossed.

yo, one of the older bros in my chapter was tellin me about this b4...he told me that they had to greet the other orgs if they saw them in the street or whatever....and i never understood this shit. the only other org than my own that i would let see my boys is Z Phi B, and thats for obvious reasons. what the fuck i care bout lettin any other org see my boys? Same way, i dont really care bout seeing who they got on either...they dont need my props just like my boys dont need theirs...

[Jody]

Umm,

Blue NYC

Interesting and colorful language in your post. As an AKA that is approaching 25 years (November 11), I will provide a brief explanation. During the last week in pledging, it was called "Hell Week" all pledgees greeted other Greeks (sorority and fraternity). If you're interested in a more detailed explanation, about why this was done, please PM me.

Beta Alpha, AKA
Fall 1982