this girls parents should be shot.....

[Phigirl04]

I can't believe these parents let it get so bad and that no one stepped in before the child got to 400lbs. These parents should not be allowed to have children. I just can't imagine letting this happen if I had a child.

[James]

I was starting to wonder whether the parents were doing it for attention.

I understand that the child was 200 pounds at 5 years old, but then after all that media attention the parents fed the child so much food it put another 200 pounds on in 2 years.

Thats like deliberate over feeding.

Maybe the mother, consciously or unconsciouly, enjoyed the notoriety of being "someone." Media attention can be seductive. And everyone in America seems to want their 15 seconds.

Aren't there mothers that deblierately make their kids sick for attention?

Originally Posted by Phigirl04

I can't believe these parents let it get so bad and that no one stepped in before the child got to 400lbs. These parents should not be allowed to have children. I just can't imagine letting this happen if I had a child.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by James

I was starting to wonder whether the parents were doing it for attention.

I understand that the child was 200 pounds at 5 years old, but then after all that media attention the parents fed the child so much food it put another 200 pounds on in 2 years.

Thats like deliberate over feeding.

Maybe the mother, consciously or unconsciouly, enjoyed the notoriety of being "someone." Media attention can be seductive. And everyone in America seems to want their 15 seconds.

Aren't there mothers that deblierately make their kids sick for attention?

How can someone get that heavy just by a disease alone, without a tumor being involved? I mean, some major over-eating has to be going on. I think the only reason why the parents still have custody of this girl is the fact that this is a rare case. I though protective services take kids away from parents in circumstances that can be hazardous to them. They are slowly killing this kid.

[blueangel]

With Prader Willi Syndrome, the child has a reduced need for calories. The really cruel part of the disease is not only do fewer calories make them fat, but they also have a flaw in the hypothalamus which make them constantly hungry. They never feel full. They have a continuous need to eat.

No appetite suppresant has been found effective in this disease. They have to be kept on an extremely low calorie diet just to stay at a normal weight.. and parents have sometimes resorted to having to lock the cabinets and refrigerators.

[Drolefille]

The girl can't get to the cupboards... she couldn't walk. There's no excuse.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

The girl can't get to the cupboards... she couldn't walk. There's no excuse.

Did you not read the part of how people with this disease must be kept on an extremely low calorie diet just to stay at a normal weight? And did you not read the part about how people with this disease can not turn off the hunger pains?

We do not know if this is what this child has, but if it is.. the blame shouldn't go to the parents.

[James]

The girl has been in the hospital Blueangel, and has responded to a forced diet. We would have ehard if she had this disease.

If we on Greekchat can think of it, the doctors are not going to overlook it.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Did you not read the part of how people with this disease must be kept on an extremely low calorie diet just to stay at a normal weight? And did you not read the part about how people with this disease can not turn off the hunger pains?

We do not know if this is what this child has, but if it is.. the blame shouldn't go to the parents.

She 5 years old. She cant exactly roll in the kitchen and make herself an omlette and a few dozen hot pockets whenever she pleases. Her parents are the ones who make her meals - therefore the blame SHOULD be on them.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

How can someone get that heavy just by a disease alone, without a tumor being involved? I mean, some major over-eating has to be going on. I think the only reason why the parents still have custody of this girl is the fact that this is a rare case. I though protective services take kids away from parents in circumstances that can be hazardous to them. They are slowly killing this kid.

We have genetically modified rats and mice that become obese when fed a normal 4% fat rodent chow diet.

They are call the OLEFT rats and the Ob/Ob mice.

For the mice they do not make this protein called Leptin. So they eat uncontrollably even during times of sleep. The leptin is made from fat tissue and is sent up to the arcuate nucleus of the brain to tell these animals they have reached satiety.

I think the OLEFT rats have similar problems.

This issue in this girl may also be glandular, either thyroid or adreals. I forget the disease names but there may be similarities with Graves.

But without the path report, there is no way to go down with the differentials.

And it is true a kid may not be able to cook for himself or herself, so they are consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, monosacchrides possibly with starches. There would be more muscle mass if it was all protein. And as always, with carbs there's fats. So if her parents were neglectful, this kid would have to eating nutrient-poor foods abundantly like candy, sodas, fruit loops, breads, etc. unrestrained for 2 years.

Most babies that gain weight at 2 years old are automatically put on caloric restrictive diet. Now, whether the parents adhere to the PCP's recommendations is a different story.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

We have genetically modified rats and mice that become obese when fed a normal 4% fat rodent chow diet.

They are call the OLEFT rats and the Ob/Ob mice.

For the mice they do not make this protein called Leptin. So they eat uncontrollably even during times of sleep. The leptin is made from fat tissue and is sent up to the arcuate nucleus of the brain to tell these animals they have reached satiety.

I think the OLEFT rats have similar problems.

This issue in this girl may also be glandular, either thyroid or adreals. I forget the disease names but there may be similarities with Graves.

But without the path report, there is no way to go down with the differentials.

And it is true a kid may not be able to cook for himself or herself, so they are consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, monosacchrides possibly with starches. There would be more muscle mass if it was all protein. And as always, with carbs there's fats. So if her parents were neglectful, this kid would have to eating nutrient-poor foods abundantly like candy, sodas, fruit loops, breads, etc. unrestrained for 2 years.

Most babies that gain weight at 2 years old are automatically put on caloric restrictive diet. Now, whether the parents adhere to the PCP's recommendations is a different story.

AKA Monet the big issue is that the kid couldn't actually walk herself to the kitchen, and unless her parents put the food under the counter instead of above she probably couldn't reach it.

I still can't get past the fact that she ROLLED everywhere.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

AKA Monet the big issue is that the kid couldn't actually walk herself to the kitchen, and unless her parents put the food under the counter instead of above she probably couldn't reach it.

I still can't get past the fact that she ROLLED everywhere.

Well, she could have used the toys that didn't break to scoot herself around, then roll over to open the door to gain access to poor food choices.

Since there is a picture of her sitting up, it is possible that she could stand. Then tumble around till she had to roll.

From what I remember speaking to one of the foremost experts on PWS, is that they have mild mental retardation. But I could be wrong.

It did not seem like this young girl had the characteristics of mental retardation from the pictures. Which means, she vocalized and cried at stimuli. Meaning her parents just kept feeding her to "shut her up" because they couldn't stand the whining or the crying...

Those early cues from parents are key in child rearing. If a baby does not receive proper parental cues, their neural development is impaired. This process occurs from day 0...

Feeding behavior is intimately linked to that.

Since I have prove my words:

Dr. Terry Miller, pediatrician. Health Disparities Conference at Legislative Day at the State Capitol. Olympia, WA Public Health Service.

[Drolefille]

There's been no indication that the child isn't otherwise "normal" develpmentally speaking. It just seems like horrendous parenting.

Although the image of the girl standing and then... tumbling until she reaches food is rather amusing. It wouldn't be too hard to move food out of the way of a six year old who can't climb into things.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

rodent chow

This made me smile.

[CutiePie2000]

Originally Posted by James

Aren't there mothers that deblierately make their kids sick for attention?

Munchausen is what you're thinking of.

[James]

Thank you.

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

Munchausen is what you're thinking of.