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Old 02-19-2007, 03:34 PM
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How can someone get that heavy just by a disease alone, without a tumor being involved? I mean, some major over-eating has to be going on. I think the only reason why the parents still have custody of this girl is the fact that this is a rare case. I though protective services take kids away from parents in circumstances that can be hazardous to them. They are slowly killing this kid.
We have genetically modified rats and mice that become obese when fed a normal 4% fat rodent chow diet.

They are call the OLEFT rats and the Ob/Ob mice.

For the mice they do not make this protein called Leptin. So they eat uncontrollably even during times of sleep. The leptin is made from fat tissue and is sent up to the arcuate nucleus of the brain to tell these animals they have reached satiety.

I think the OLEFT rats have similar problems.

This issue in this girl may also be glandular, either thyroid or adreals. I forget the disease names but there may be similarities with Graves.

But without the path report, there is no way to go down with the differentials.

And it is true a kid may not be able to cook for himself or herself, so they are consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, monosacchrides possibly with starches. There would be more muscle mass if it was all protein. And as always, with carbs there's fats. So if her parents were neglectful, this kid would have to eating nutrient-poor foods abundantly like candy, sodas, fruit loops, breads, etc. unrestrained for 2 years.

Most babies that gain weight at 2 years old are automatically put on caloric restrictive diet. Now, whether the parents adhere to the PCP's recommendations is a different story.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:08 PM
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We have genetically modified rats and mice that become obese when fed a normal 4% fat rodent chow diet.

They are call the OLEFT rats and the Ob/Ob mice.

For the mice they do not make this protein called Leptin. So they eat uncontrollably even during times of sleep. The leptin is made from fat tissue and is sent up to the arcuate nucleus of the brain to tell these animals they have reached satiety.

I think the OLEFT rats have similar problems.

This issue in this girl may also be glandular, either thyroid or adreals. I forget the disease names but there may be similarities with Graves.

But without the path report, there is no way to go down with the differentials.

And it is true a kid may not be able to cook for himself or herself, so they are consuming large amounts of carbohydrates, monosacchrides possibly with starches. There would be more muscle mass if it was all protein. And as always, with carbs there's fats. So if her parents were neglectful, this kid would have to eating nutrient-poor foods abundantly like candy, sodas, fruit loops, breads, etc. unrestrained for 2 years.

Most babies that gain weight at 2 years old are automatically put on caloric restrictive diet. Now, whether the parents adhere to the PCP's recommendations is a different story.
AKA Monet the big issue is that the kid couldn't actually walk herself to the kitchen, and unless her parents put the food under the counter instead of above she probably couldn't reach it.

I still can't get past the fact that she ROLLED everywhere.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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AKA Monet the big issue is that the kid couldn't actually walk herself to the kitchen, and unless her parents put the food under the counter instead of above she probably couldn't reach it.

I still can't get past the fact that she ROLLED everywhere.
Well, she could have used the toys that didn't break to scoot herself around, then roll over to open the door to gain access to poor food choices.

Since there is a picture of her sitting up, it is possible that she could stand. Then tumble around till she had to roll.

From what I remember speaking to one of the foremost experts on PWS, is that they have mild mental retardation. But I could be wrong.

It did not seem like this young girl had the characteristics of mental retardation from the pictures. Which means, she vocalized and cried at stimuli. Meaning her parents just kept feeding her to "shut her up" because they couldn't stand the whining or the crying...

Those early cues from parents are key in child rearing. If a baby does not receive proper parental cues, their neural development is impaired. This process occurs from day 0...

Feeding behavior is intimately linked to that.

Since I have prove my words:

Dr. Terry Miller, pediatrician. Health Disparities Conference at Legislative Day at the State Capitol. Olympia, WA Public Health Service.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:39 PM
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There's been no indication that the child isn't otherwise "normal" develpmentally speaking. It just seems like horrendous parenting.

Although the image of the girl standing and then... tumbling until she reaches food is rather amusing. It wouldn't be too hard to move food out of the way of a six year old who can't climb into things.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:55 PM
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