Re-Initiating

#1 02-06-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smiley21

I am not sure if this is the same school or not. I find it hard to believe that it is the same school because what makes her think that this other sorority would want her? She acts as if the only thing in her way is the fact that she was already initiated in another sorority. Wouldn't the other girls already know about this girl?

The OP stated in the first post that her friend is at another school.

HeatherH84 -- there is no black or white answer to your question. The facts have been presented to you, you know the rules, and my advice would be to tell your friend that she shouldn't go through with it. If she tries to join your sorority, let her know that you have an obligation as a member of your organization to maintain its integrity.

The fact that she's being disloyal to her organization (regardless of the circumstances) is a red flag in itself. What makes you think she'll be a loyal asset to your sorority?

Keep in mind that college is only for a few years. The DZ sisterhood lasts a lifetime, and while her current situation is not the most ideal, there are plenty of other sisters out there.

You know it's wrong. And you know what to do. I don't see why you have to question it any further.

smiley21 · #2 02-06-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

The OP stated in the first post that her friend is at another school.

I totally forgot about that part of the post. oops.

BlueNYC2 · #3 02-06-2007, 11:41 PM

i'm not sure how orgs in the other councils work, but in the NPHC, you cannot join an organization after you have become of member of another one that is an honorary, or service org.

and IF she would have been able to join another org, she's what is called a PANCAKE!!!

#4 02-06-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueNYC2

i'm not sure how orgs in the other councils work, but in the NPHC, you cannot join an organization after you have become of member of another one that is an honorary, or service org.

So are you saying that NPHC members cannot hold dual memberships in in the NPHC and service/honorary/professional organizations? I know that once initiated in the NPHC, you cannot join another NPHC. But I know several NPHC members who are in service/honorary/professional fraternities.

It's the same for the NPC. Once initiated in the NPC, you cannot join another NPC sorority. The original poster knows this. What she was wondering is HOW her friend would be found out if she decided to initiate into two.

Senusret I · #5 02-07-2007, 12:11 AM

OTW you know damn well the person you quoted is just plain wrong. lol I don't know why you feel like being nice.

#6 02-07-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

OTW you know damn well the person you quoted is just plain wrong. lol I don't know why you feel like being nice.

Shut up, tard.

[I really really really am nice. Don't let these fools tell you otherwise.]

Senusret I · #7 02-07-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW

Shut up, tard.

[I really really really am nice. Don't let these fools tell you otherwise.]

I know you're nice, I've seen the pictures.

ladygreek · #8 02-07-2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

OTW you know damn well the person you quoted is just plain wrong. lol I don't know why you feel like being nice.

LOL. I should have read ahead.

ladygreek · #9 02-07-2007, 12:23 AM

For some reason I like OTW.

PhiMuAmberkins · #10 02-07-2007, 12:14 AM

First, you can only be misled if you let people mislead you. There is a wealth of information on the internet about all the NPC organizations, including chapter websites; plus, every campus I know of has a greek advisor, and they should know about things like dues and so on. I don't think there's ever any excuse for being misled...you're just under-informed, and that's your friends own fault.

Second, if she really hates her chapter, maybe it's her. Not to be mean to your friend, but if she hates the ENTIRE chapter, or if they hate her, maybe it's her, not them.

Third, if it is just her chapter, but she still wants to be in a sorority, she pretty much has 2 options that don't include being deceitful. She can join a local or a service sorority or something like that (some people just want the letters...) or she can transfer to another chapter of Delta Zeta. I'm not sure how many chapters there are...but I'm willing to be it's quite a few (ie probably in the hundreds). If I hated my chapter, I have over 100 other Phi Mu chapters that I could conceivably transfer to.

Sorry if this is harsh. I just have no sympathy for people who don't read the fine print, aren't proactive in finding out information, and who let themselves be misled. And people who try to be deceitful are just the kind of people who give greeks a bad name.

AChiOhSnap · #11 02-07-2007, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuAmberkins

Sorry if this is harsh. I just have no sympathy for people who don't read the fine print, aren't proactive in finding out information, and who let themselves be misled. And people who try to be deceitful are just the kind of people who give greeks a bad name.

I second that. And frankly, I don't know why you don't think her scheme is more than just a "bad idea," as you called it. I would be completely pissed if I were you. I don't know why you don't feel like she's horribly disrespecting your organization by thinking she can just juggle around sororities as it suits her.

It's not just a "bad idea" because she might get caught. It's a bad idea because it goes against a major tenent of membership in your sorority, and I hope you'd feel passionately enough about your sorority to not let her blatantly break your rules.

PhoenixAzul · #12 02-07-2007, 12:29 AM

This is not directed at anyone, but please let's not tell people to try locals as second option. It can be read as "if you don't get into a real sorority, try a local, they let everyone in." Locals have their own criteria and rules regarding people who have already initiated into other groups. Granted, they would probably not be able to access the NPC database of initiates.

I know it is meant as a "you can't initiate in our council, but local/other councils may allow you to be initiated", but it can be misread as "they let everyone in."

PeppyGPhiB · #13 02-07-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiMuAmberkins

I'm not sure how many chapters there are...but I'm willing to be it's quite a few (ie probably in the thousands or hundreds of thousands). If I hated my chapter, I have over 100,000 other Phi Mu chapters that I could conceivably transfer to.

What do you mean hundreds of thousands of chapters? 100,000 other chapters to transfer to? I thought maybe I misunderstood you at first, but I think you may be confused?

PhiMuAmberkins · #14 02-07-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

What do you mean hundreds of thousands of chapters? 100,000 other chapters to transfer to? I thought maybe I misunderstood you at first, but I think you may be confused?

No, I'm not confused, I'm just sleepy and can't type correctly. I meant hundreds of chapters, hundreds of thousands of women this girl's friend might be able to get along with. I shall fix it!

MTSUGURL · #15 02-07-2007, 10:20 AM

A few years ago when I was recruitment chair, a girl transferred in that was an initiated member of Sigma Kappa. The SK president from her old campus emailed the presidents and recruitment chairs of each sorority on our campus to let us know because she had a feeling the girl might try to join another group. The girl had never said anything, she just had a feeling. I emailed her back to ask her about the girl because she had contacted me and was eligible to join Phi Chi since we were local. There may be thousands upon thousands or millions of Greek women around the world, but that world can become very small when it needs to be.