Justice in America

amycat412 · #1 02-01-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

You guys can talk about being naive all you want, but believe it or not, there are communities where the large majority of people don't act like this. This reminds me of people who scoff at the idea of virgin sorority girls...simply because thats not how it is where you live, doesn't mean thats how it is everywhere.

I don't think anyone is saying this happens every single where. Communities like you describe above do exist and I tend to think are more the norm--even on other levels like the teen with the secret sex life and good girl image.

I was one of the naive ones. No sex in high school for me. I knew friends were, but it just didn't even occur to me that it was an option for me. Wasn't ready and wasn't wild enough then to do somethign i'd regret. thank God.

I jsut don't think anyone at that party, regardless of gender is more to blame than anyone else. there seems to have been a whole group vibe going on and was it stupid and irresponsible? Sure. Was it a jailable offense when the crime he was convicted of was one the "victim" intiated. Tell me, what living breathing non impotant man is gonna stop a woman who voluntarily starts givng you a BJ and ask her how old she is...? Esp when they knew each other form school.

It is a dumb law that seems destined to be unevenly applied. The end.

macallan25 · #2 02-01-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by amycat412

Tell me, what living breathing non impotant man is gonna stop a woman who voluntarily starts givng you a BJ and ask her how old she is...? Esp when they knew each other form school.

Any guy that was raised properly and has any ounce of self respect would think about the repercussions. When I was a senior in higschool I knew plenty of girls that were much much younger than me because I had younger siblings........something tells me I wouldn't have let one of them give me head in a hotel room.

GeekyPenguin · #3 02-01-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Any guy that was raised properly and has any ounce of self respect would think about the repercussions. When I was a senior in higschool I knew plenty of girls that were much much younger than me because I had younger siblings........something tells me I wouldn't have let one of them give me head in a hotel room.

Two years is "much much younger" to you?

shinerbock · #4 02-01-2007, 08:26 PM

Of course guys make mistakes about age. However, I was very aware of how old girls were when I was in HS. You can stay out of most of this trouble by not messing around with sluts. I'm not talking about college girls who like sex, I'm talking about the teenage type who pass themselves around and let people videotape it.

macallan25 · #5 02-01-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

Two years is "much much younger" to you?

One sister is 2 years, the other 4.....so yeah, it is. College and older, two years isn't that much. But when you are in highschool and two years could make the girls 15, 14, etc., I think its a little different deal.

starang21 · #6 02-02-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

One sister is 2 years, the other 4.....so yeah, it is. College and older, two years isn't that much. But when you are in highschool and two years could make the girls 15, 14, etc., I think its a little different deal.

not always. a lot of senior and junior guys will date freshman or sophomore girls. it's pretty commonplace.

macallan25 · #7 02-02-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21

not always. a lot of senior and junior guys will date freshman or sophomore girls. it's pretty commonplace.

Well, I was referring more to having sex and videotaping gangbangs. Dating, not so much.

starang21 · #8 02-02-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Well, I was referring more to having sex and videotaping gangbangs. Dating, not so much.

well considering that a lot people lose their virginity before they can drive, i'd venture to say that sex at a young age is pretty commonplace.

DSTCHAOS · #9 02-03-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by amycat412

I don't think anyone is saying this happens every single where. Communities like you describe above do exist and I tend to think are more the norm--even on other levels like the teen with the secret sex life and good girl image. .

I'm no longer sure what the norm is regarding these types of things.

Hearing about teen sex parties across social class and race makes me think that maybe highly religious communities with high levels of social control, like the Quakers, are the only COMMUNITIES immune from this.

amycat412 · #10 02-04-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm no longer sure what the norm is regarding these types of things.

Hearing about teen sex parties across social class and race makes me think that maybe highly religious communities with high levels of social control, like the Quakers, are the only COMMUNITIES immune from this.

good point.

This whole case makes me want to do something to help get his sentence overturned. The complete injustice of it makes me physically ill.

The justice, DA etc, way it was handled is like something out of the damn middle ages.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I hate the feeling that if this was a case against white teens, the sentencing would have been different. BECAUSE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION MAKES ME SICK.