Justice in America

amycat412 · #1 02-01-2007, 03:04 AM

I don't think any prison time was warrented as both girls in the story seem to have been consensually participating in activities.

Now there is a line where consent becomes null and void if she is too wasted to give consent. But come on. they were all peers, it was a party. none of it IMO was intentionally malicious. Edgy, sure. But so what?

He did not deserve prison time, the branding of being a child molester, and I am disgusted that the GA judicial system has treated him so completely unfairly. It disgusts me, frankly.

PiKA2001 · #2 02-01-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by amycat412

I don't think any prison time was warrented as both girls in the story seem to have been consensually participating in activities.

Now there is a line where consent becomes null and void if she is too wasted to give consent. But come on. they were all peers, it was a party. none of it IMO was intentionally malicious. Edgy, sure. But so what?

He did not deserve prison time, the branding of being a child molester, and I am disgusted that the GA judicial system has treated him so completely unfairly. It disgusts me, frankly.

Thats interesting... What do you think the outcome would have been if all people involved where 22? And since when is "raping" your peers ok? Doesn't most cases of date rape happen at parties between peers?

shinerbock · #3 02-01-2007, 10:02 AM

Put the parents in jail. If your 15 year old daughter is getting gangbanged while on drugs and letting someone tape it, you've got a bit of work left to do as a parent.

mulattogyrl · #4 02-01-2007, 04:36 PM

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If your 15 year old daughter is getting gangbanged while on drugs and letting someone tape it, you've got a bit of work left to do as a parent.

I agree with this. Where were the young girl's parents in all of this? I know teenagers have sex, but the whole gangbanging and videotaping...wtf? That's sickening.

I also don't think that the young man should have gotten 10 years for it. Yeah, it's gross behavior, but 10 years? Nah.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 · #5 02-01-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I wonder how many black baby-daddies the "victim" has now...

Alot of white chicks children have Black fathers...whats the face for??

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Thats interesting... What do you think the outcome would have been if all people involved where 22? And since when is "raping" your peers ok? Doesn't most cases of date rape happen at parties between peers?

Where was the rape?? Going from dude to dude in a hotel room giving "brain" makes you alot of things but not a victim...
Those of you who think this is uncommon behavior among teens are kidding yourselves...those of you who think this isn't common among white upper class girls are also kidding yourselves...I work with teens from all walks of life everyday...sex, oral or otherwise is taken lightly by a great part of this age group and even younger..."hooking up" in their minds is ok....the moral values of society as a whole is shot, not just in one demographic...

macallan25 · #6 02-01-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9

Alot of white chicks children have Black fathers...whats the face for??

Where was the rape?? Going from dude to dude in a hotel room giving "brain" makes you alot of things but not a victim...
Those of you who think this is uncommon behavior among teens are kidding yourselves...those of you who think this isn't common among white upper class girls are also kidding yourselves...I work with teens from all walks of life everyday...sex, oral or otherwise is taken lightly by a great part of this age group and even younger..."hooking up" in their minds is ok....the moral values of society as a whole is shot, not just in one demographic...

Sorry......but the white upper class girls that I grew up with, were raised with, and continue to spend time with don't, and never have acted like that.

DSTCHAOS · #7 02-01-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Sorry......but the white upper class girls that I grew up with, were raised with, and continue to spend time with don't, and never have acted like that.

Did she say ALL?

She's saying that these deviant behaviors are not uncommon. They span across social classes and regions, for instance.

macallan25 · #8 02-01-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Did she say ALL?

She's saying that these deviant behaviors are not uncommon. They span across social classes and regions, for instance.

I simply don't think it is.....it may happen, but I don't think it is common behavior.

DSTCHAOS · #9 02-01-2007, 03:52 PM

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I simply don't think it is.....it may happen, but I don't think it is common behavior.

You do know that you're trying to make a correlation between what you and your buddies experience and what millions of others experience, right?

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 · #10 02-01-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Sorry......but the white upper class girls that I grew up with, were raised with, and continue to spend time with don't, and never have acted like that.

Umm ok but the white upper class girls that I went to school with (and this was almost 14 yrs ago) did "hook up" on a regular with boys and talked about it openly...these were southern raised pearl wearing girls from families of "prestige" in Charlotte...they threw wild ass parties in their million dollar homes when their parents were away...they did drugs recreationally and drank..these were the same girls who got good grades and went on to good schools...some were my close friends and so I witnessed this firsthand....the point, THERE ARE HOS IN EVERY CLASS AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC GROUP!!! If you live in a bubble were this is never the case then cool but you have to be realistic at your views of society as a whole...

amycat412 · #11 02-01-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9

the point, THERE ARE HOS IN EVERY CLASS AND SOCIO-ECONOMIC GROUP!!! If you live in a bubble were this is never the case then cool but you have to be realistic at your views of society as a whole...

YES! I could not agree more. I was a naive innocent teen in a private, preppy college prep high school and wow more slutty behavior witnessed or heard about than in college. And the school was probably 60% white, 25% african american and 15% asian. Is more diversified now as I understand, but then the whole city is.

ThetaDancer · #12 02-01-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

And since when is "raping" your peers ok? Doesn't most cases of date rape happen at parties between peers?

Did you read the article?

"The trial finished that afternoon, and the jury came back with "not guilty" on the rape but "guilty" on the aggravated child molestation."

macallan25 · #13 02-01-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by amycat412

I don't think any prison time was warrented as both girls in the story seem to have been consensually participating in activities.

Now there is a line where consent becomes null and void if she is too wasted to give consent. But come on. they were all peers, it was a party. none of it IMO was intentionally malicious. Edgy, sure. But so what?

He did not deserve prison time, the branding of being a child molester, and I am disgusted that the GA judicial system has treated him so completely unfairly. It disgusts me, frankly.

So what if the black guy was five or six years older? Do you think a 23 or 24 year old on tape gang banging a bunch of freshmen and sophmores is acceptable behavior?

So you are telling me if you saw your 15 year old daughter on a video giving head and screwing a bunch of guys in a hotel room while chiefing it up and getting wasted.......you would be fine with it?

All of those kids parents should be locked up too.

valkyrie · #14 02-01-2007, 01:33 PM

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So you are telling me if you saw your 15 year old daughter on a video giving head and screwing a bunch of guys in a hotel room while chiefing it up and getting wasted.......you would be fine with it?

There's a difference between being "fine" with your 15-year-old daughter screwing a bunch of guys and thinking that one of the guys involved should be in prison because of it. I agree with amycat that, as long as the girl wasn't too drunk to know what she was doing, sending this guy to prison is ridiculous. It shouldn't be a crime, period. It isn't the government's job to protect 15-year-old girls from whoring themselves out.

AlexMack · #15 02-01-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

There's a difference between being "fine" with your 15-year-old daughter screwing a bunch of guys and thinking that one of the guys involved should be in prison because of it. I agree with amycat that, as long as the girl wasn't too drunk to know what she was doing, sending this guy to prison is ridiculous. It shouldn't be a crime, period. It isn't the government's job to protect 15-year-old girls from whoring themselves out.

Exactly...the government tries too hard to be the morality police.