North vs South

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

I don't get offended by it, but it's confusing and annoying to me when guys are really stubborn about it. If you are a man, and are the closest to the elevator door, blocking my way to the door, for heaven's sakes, get out of the stupid elevator before the thing closes, instead of trying to squirm your "polite" a$$ all over the place so I can get out first! (This has happened to me so many times, and maybe I'm just spoiled or something, but still.)

OH MY LORD YES THIS DRIVES ME INSANE. The other day I MADE a bunch of guys get out of the elevator before me - I just refused to move. Doing what you described isn't good manners or common sense, it's stupid.

If guys don't get up/hold doors etc, maybe they've been on the unlucky end of some feminazi who yelled at them for doing it. As far as the bus is concerned, I don't expect guys to stand up for me - they've had a long hard day, too. For the women who are like "but my shooooeess hurt!" well, that's your own dumb fault.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Originally Posted by 33girl

OH MY LORD YES THIS DRIVES ME INSANE. The other day I MADE a bunch of guys get out of the elevator before me - I just refused to move. Doing what you described isn't good manners or common sense, it's stupid.

If guys don't get up/hold doors etc, maybe they've been on the unlucky end of some feminazi who yelled at them for doing it. As far as the bus is concerned, I don't expect guys to stand up for me - they've had a long hard day, too. For the women who are like "but my shooooeess hurt!" well, that's your own dumb fault.

my son (when I have one) will be taught to be a gentleman...he will open doors, give up his seat, and do whatever else he can to make a lady in his presence comfortable...my boyfriend opens doors, walks on the street side of the sidewalk, guides me through a crowd with his hand at the small of my back, and is just an all around gentleman...I have no problem with gender roles in my relationship...if these basics were still taught to young boys we probably wouldn't have so many men who will throw around the bitch, ho,
c-word so often...do I expect this level of respect from a man, hell yes...but maybe its because I'm a GRITS...oh I quoted you because I expect there to be at least one gentlman on a bus (when I rode buses) I was never surprized though if there wasn't...
oh yeah, if there was a senior citizen on the bus standing and no men gave up their seat, I would...

[Lady of Pearl]

Manners is Manners whether North or South. In fact, I was born in the North attended a Southern University for college-believe me the people I knew down South were very particular about their manners. I once made the mistake of calling an older cousin by her first name and was promptly corrected! she is Miss so and so to you and I considered myself an adult at that time! LOL

[UGAalum94]

I realize that guys are often trained to do it and women are not, but I hold doors for other people when I can, period, even if it's for a guy. It just seems like the nice thing to do if you got to the door first.

If I'm walking with a guy that I know was raised to hold door, like any male member of my family, I'll kind of wait to let them get it for me, but with everyone else, it's just who gets there first.

It's funny sometimes at work, when I'll get the office door for a group of us going in, that some guys cannot let you hold the door for them, and that, I think, is funny.

We should just be nice to each other generally. Sure, teach your male kids to be gentlemen to women, but mainly teach them to treat other PEOPLE well.

ETA: you know what kind of old fashioned thing that I really like to see men do? Hold coats for women to put on. Does anyone else know what I mean? Imagine your grandparents leaving a party to which they both wore coats.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

ETA: you know what kind of old fashioned thing that I really like to see men do? Hold coats for women to put on. Does anyone else know what I mean? Imagine your grandparents leaving a party to which they both wore coats.

With out formal staff to assist, the gentleman assists the lady with her coat. Then the gentleman may put his own coat on. This is similar to being seated for dinner. The gentlemen assist the ladies first, then they may seat themselves.

And if a male host escorts their guests to the door, it is appropriate for him to assist both the lady and the gentleman. And while I am not certain, I would guess that it would be appropriate for the female host to assist a lady with her coat as well.

As for within the family, it is always appropriate for those who are younger, to offer assistance to those who are older. Regardless of gender.

[PhoenixAzul]

I'm sorry, but again, I think that is one of the more "silly" things to me.

"assist" me in putting my coat on? What am I , 5? I'm perfectly capable of putting my coat on by myself, along with finding and sitting in my own seat.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by PhoenixAzul

I'm sorry, but again, I think that is one of the more "silly" things to me.

"assist" me in putting my coat on? What am I , 5? I'm perfectly capable of putting my coat on by myself, along with finding and sitting in my own seat.

It's not about what you are capable of; it's about serving you in a way that shows caring.

No one thinks you NEED that kind of assistance.

The chair thing always makes me feel awkward, but it's my problem not the guy's.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

It's not about what you are capable of; it's about serving you in a way that shows caring.

No one thinks you NEED that kind of assistance.

The chair thing always makes me feel awkward, but it's my problem not the guy's.

See, my way of caring is cooking for the boy. His way of caring is eating everything, telling me he loved it and doing the dishes. He can help me with my coat when I break my arm

[MissCaramella]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

We should just be nice to each other generally. Sure, teach your male kids to be gentlemen to women, but mainly teach them to treat other PEOPLE well.

MAJOR cosign on that one.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

It's not about what you are capable of; it's about serving you in a way that shows caring.

No one thinks you NEED that kind of assistance.

Amen. Goodness knows that I don't mind being treated special.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

It's not about what you are capable of; it's about serving you in a way that shows caring.

No one thinks you NEED that kind of assistance.

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

We should just be nice to each other generally. Sure, teach your male kids to be gentlemen to women, but mainly teach them to treat other PEOPLE well.

Exactly. It's about teaching your kids, male or female, to think of other people before they think of themselves.

[Emory Kappa]

This reminds me of Blast From The Past, the cute movie with Brendan Fraser, Alicia Silverstone, Christopher Walken and Sissy Spacek. Brendan Fraser's character quotes his mother: "Manners are a way of showing other people we care about them."

(Thanks to IMDB)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124298/

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Emory Kappa

This reminds me of Blast From The Past, the cute movie with Brendan Fraser, Alicia Silverstone, Christopher Walken and Sissy Spacek. Brendan Fraser's character quotes his mother: "Manners are a way of showing other people we care about them."

(Thanks to IMDB)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124298/

i thought of that too

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Emory Kappa

This reminds me of Blast From The Past, the cute movie with Brendan Fraser, Alicia Silverstone, Christopher Walken and Sissy Spacek. Brendan Fraser's character quotes his mother: "Manners are a way of showing other people we care about them."

(Thanks to IMDB)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0124298/

Haha, I love that movie!

[shinerbock]

What a horrible movie.