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Old 01-10-2007, 02:23 PM
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I never saw the point in saving a whole paycheck for one purse or necklace. The whole point of designer brands are to show status and wealth. If you don't have it and waste your money trying to keep up...I hope you learn better before you miss rent and eat Ramen to purchase the newest trendy purse.
I used to manage a department of sixteen recent college grads, almost all women. I was paying them $30k a year. They were living in NYC apartments with one or two roommates to make ends meet (and probably eating Ramen noodles). They ALL had real Kate Spades, Coach Bags, Louis, Tiffany pieces and whatever else.

To me, if you don't have $400 in cash to put in the purse, then you shouldn't be carrying a $400 bag.

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(Currently carrying a $60 Vera Bradley Bag with a knock off Louis checkbook and a wallet from Fossil)
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Old 01-10-2007, 02:45 PM
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If Tiffany is out, does that mean silverjewlryclub.com is in? Because I'm so all over that.
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Old 01-10-2007, 06:54 PM
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When I worked at the Limited, Tiffany pieces were some of the "rewards" we could collect at the end of the year. I have the Venetian Link neckalce and bracelet but I rarely wear them these days because I was seeing little (think pre-teen) girls in them.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:11 PM
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...I have the Venetian Link neckalce and bracelet but I rarely wear them these days because I was seeing little (think pre-teen) girls in them.
Which is exactly why Tiffany jacked up the prices. The article basicly went on to say that the investors an the company want to woo back the higher paying clientel that Tiffany has a (long time) relationship with (brand loyalty), not the fly-by-night-sweet-sixteen-here-today-forgotten-tomorrow crowd. When something becomes trendy and everyone has it, it loses it's "special" value. Burberry is a classic example of this. A woman in the article remarked that when she had gone to a Tiffany store to get a gift for her teen daughter, the store was crowded like Macys. What was the point of her being there in that atmosphere when she could go to a store like Macys for that. Someone else in the article said that they didnt wear their Tiffany jewerly piece anymore because "everyone has it".

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Small Southeastern College junior Intern #2, a member of XYZ sorority, agrees. "Seriously, nobody I know wears that stuff anymore. Everyone had (Tiffany silver jewelry) my senior year of high school, but that was a long time ago."
And that's the attitude that Tiffany's feels will hurt them in the long run.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Which is exactly why Tiffany jacked up the prices. The article basicly went on to say that the investors an the company want to woo back the higher paying clientel that Tiffany has a (long time) relationship with (brand loyalty), not the fly-by-night-sweet-sixteen-here-today-forgotten-tomorrow crowd. When something becomes trendy and everyone has it, it loses it's "special" value. Burberry is a classic example of this. A woman in the article remarked that when she had gone to a Tiffany store to get a gift for her teen daughter, the store was crowded like Macys. What was the point of her being there in that atmosphere when she could go to a store like Macys for that. Someone else in the article said that they didnt wear their Tiffany jewerly piece anymore because "everyone has it".
When I think Tiffany, I think diamonds...not the silver stuff they started selling so they would have something for every income level. And to most women, I would wager that they still think of diamonds when they think of Tiffany. I don't think Tiffany has anything to worry about. Anyone who's been in a Tiffany store knows that silver is only a small part of its collection, and if you haven't been in a Tiffany store, well, you're probably not in its target market anyway.

If I was LV, I would be worried. Girls in middle school carrying an adult purse, just because "everyone has one!"? That's very anti-luxury, and therefore hurts the LV brand. Why does it matter more for LV than Tiffany? Because the bulk of LV's bags and luggage are "signature" bags...there just isn't variety like at Tiffany. I just bought a beautiful, more expensive Marc Jacobs bag because I would never pay $1,000 for a bag that everyone else has. Coach can get away with it because Coach is only marginally "designer"...most of its bags are in the $275-$400 range. I have several Coach bags, but I carry them because they're classic and professional, not to show off. It is not as much of a status symbol as a LV bag is supposed to be. But now LV is no longer a status symbol...everyone has one, or a knockoff that most people probably think is a real one. The LV store on Rodeo Drive sees a ridiculous amount of foot traffic.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:22 PM
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When I think Tiffany, I think diamonds...not the silver stuff they started selling so they would have something for every income level. And to most women, I would wager that they still think of diamonds when they think of Tiffany. I don't think Tiffany has anything to worry about.Anyone who's been in a Tiffany store knows that silver is only a small part of its collection, and if you haven't been in a Tiffany store, well, you're probably not in its target market anyway.

If I was LV, I would be worried. Girls in middle school carrying an adult purse, just because "everyone has one!"? That's very anti-luxury, and therefore hurts the LV brand. Why does it matter more for LV than Tiffany? Because the bulk of LV's bags and luggage are "signature" bags...there just isn't variety like at Tiffany. I just bought a beautiful, more expensive Marc Jacobs bag because I would never pay $1,000 for a bag that everyone else has. Coach can get away with it because Coach is only marginally "designer"...most of its bags are in the $275-$400 range. I have several Coach bags, but I carry them because they're classic and professional, not to show off. It is not as much of a status symbol as a LV bag is supposed to be. But now LV is no longer a status symbol...everyone has one, or a knockoff that most people probably think is a real one. The LV store on Rodeo Drive sees a ridiculous amount of foot traffic.
You said what I was thinking.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:05 PM
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To me, if you don't have $400 in cash to put in the purse, then you shouldn't be carrying a $400 bag.

My 2 cents.

(Currently carrying a $60 Vera Bradley Bag with a knock off Louis checkbook and a wallet from Fossil)
Eh, agree to disagree. I'd rather see someone pay $400 for a bag than carry a knockoff.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:14 PM
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I used to manage a department of sixteen recent college grads, almost all women. I was paying them $30k a year. They were living in NYC apartments with one or two roommates to make ends meet (and probably eating Ramen noodles). They ALL had real Kate Spades, Coach Bags, Louis, Tiffany pieces and whatever else.

To me, if you don't have $400 in cash to put in the purse, then you shouldn't be carrying a $400 bag.

My 2 cents.

(Currently carrying a $60 Vera Bradley Bag with a knock off Louis checkbook and a wallet from Fossil)
I have this horrible horrible conscience that stops me from buying expensive things. Everytime I am about to do it, a little voice inside me says 'that money could feed a family in Africa. You don't need [insert item here].'
Then I don't buy it and give the money to charity. I need a job where I can buy nice things and give money away.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:28 PM
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I have this horrible horrible conscience that stops me from buying expensive things. Everytime I am about to do it, a little voice inside me says 'that money could feed a family in Africa. You don't need [insert item here].'
Then I don't buy it and give the money to charity. I need a job where I can buy nice things and give money away.
Centaur, it's great that you do that!

Do you find yourself getting obsessive about it? I mean, do you question "should I buy a Starbuck's coffee or just make it at home?" or is there a price cut off?

For me, it kind of comes down the price and usefulness. I have a hard time buying expensive luxury items because I stop and think about better uses for the money, but I waste a ton of money buying little stuff I don't really need.

I never bought any Tiffany silver jewelry, but I do have a Tiffany sterling silver swiss army knife keychain that struck me as really funny. It came in all the Tiffany blue packaging. (It was a gift, but I did show it to the person who got it for me, and oddly, I don't worry about it I'm wasting money when I buy stuff for other people.)

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Old 01-10-2007, 07:55 PM
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Centaur, it's great that you do that!

Do you find yourself getting obsessive about it? I mean, do you question "should I buy a Starbuck's coffee or just make it at home?" or is there a price cut off?

For me, it kind of comes down the price and usefulness. I have a hard time buying expensive luxury items because I stop and think about better uses for the money, but I waste a ton of money buying little stuff I don't really need.

I never bought any Tiffany silver jewelry, but I do have a Tiffany sterling silver swiss army knife keychain that struck me as really funny. It came in all the Tiffany blue packaging. (It was a gift, but I did show it to the person who got it for me, and oddly, I don't worry about it I'm wasting money when I buy stuff for other people.)
I don't drink Starbucks coffee at all. I'm all about Fair Trade Coffee. I'm as meticulous about it as a vegetarian is about not eating meat.
Well, my example-right after the tsunami, I had money from christmas. I wanted this really nice leather jacket that was on sale, but I knew I couldn't justify spending $100 on something I wanted but didn't need when there were people who'd just had their entire lives wiped out halfway around the world.
It's not a price cutoff, it's just how my conscience feels on a particular day
This christmas I didn't know what I wanted from my parents and they kept asking, so finally I showed my mother this website : http://www.oxfamamericaunwrapped.com/ and spent $50 investing in a fair trade coffee collaborative.
I am a privileged westerner as is. I have clean water, clothes, food and shelter. I have a cell phone and a computer with internet access. I drive a decent car which I can fill with gas whenever I want, no problem.
Don't get me wrong-I do not begrudge people for wanting and buying expensive items (except Paris Hilton etc. she disgusts me!). It's all a matter of perspective.
Occasionally I do remind myself that I am allowed to spend large amounts of money on things I want because the cost of living is so different over here. Also I can't save the world, as much as I'd like to.
Oh, on topic-I own a fake Tiffany necklace. It looks pretty real, not very, but real enough. I'm not sure where it is actually.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:19 PM
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Starbucks was just an example of something one could buy that costs probably five time what it would cost to make something yourself, but that would still wouldn't kick up my "is it immoral to buy this" meter because the amount of money I was handing over wasn't that big. In your case, it would kick up the "is this immoral meter," but for different reasons.

I didn't see the Unwrapped page before. I've been intrigued by Heifer International in the past and we had a fundraising contest at work for them, but never purchased anything on my own.

If only international fundraising could be the next expensive college fashion trend. . .
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:05 PM
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Starbucks was just an example of something one could buy that costs probably five time what it would cost to make something yourself, but that would still wouldn't kick up my "is it immoral to buy this" meter because the amount of money I was handing over wasn't that big. In your case, it would kick up the "is this immoral meter," but for different reasons.

I didn't see the Unwrapped page before. I've been intrigued by Heifer International in the past and we had a fundraising contest at work for them, but never purchased anything on my own.

If only international fundraising could be the next expensive college fashion trend. . .
I bet we could work that out. Maybe if we found a way to hand out things with the correct trendy labels as rewards for participating in fundraising...
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:24 PM
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The proper Southern fratty sorostitute should be wearing pearls and David Yurman. "Return to Tiffany's" crap was cool in 7th grade.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:27 PM
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I don't drink Starbucks coffee at all. I'm all about Fair Trade Coffee. I'm as meticulous about it as a vegetarian is about not eating meat.
Well, my example-right after the tsunami, I had money from christmas. I wanted this really nice leather jacket that was on sale, but I knew I couldn't justify spending $100 on something I wanted but didn't need when there were people who'd just had their entire lives wiped out halfway around the world.
It's not a price cutoff, it's just how my conscience feels on a particular day
This christmas I didn't know what I wanted from my parents and they kept asking, so finally I showed my mother this website : http://www.oxfamamericaunwrapped.com/ and spent $50 investing in a fair trade coffee collaborative.
I am a privileged westerner as is. I have clean water, clothes, food and shelter. I have a cell phone and a computer with internet access. I drive a decent car which I can fill with gas whenever I want, no problem.
Don't get me wrong-I do not begrudge people for wanting and buying expensive items (except Paris Hilton etc. she disgusts me!). It's all a matter of perspective.
Occasionally I do remind myself that I am allowed to spend large amounts of money on things I want because the cost of living is so different over here. Also I can't save the world, as much as I'd like to.
Oh, on topic-I own a fake Tiffany necklace. It looks pretty real, not very, but real enough. I'm not sure where it is actually.

This is why I can't stand the idea of a wedding registry. I have dishes and stuff, why would I replace them?
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This is why I can't stand the idea of a wedding registry. I have dishes and stuff, why would I replace them?
That's why you can register for things like donations to charities if you already have dishes

(I personally don't have anything close to a full set of dishes. I am definitely registering for dishes and the donations. I am fresh outta college and I need some dishes!)
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