What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

Participation or not in 'Greek Week' has more to do with culture than race. I know that when I was in school, the NPHC orgs had their own 'week' (normally around their Founders Day) where open and closed service and social activities were performed each day. The activites performed during the NPC/IFC Greek Week did not appeal to the NPHC groups as a whole and often conflicted with calendars that include many off-campus obligations.

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

It's extremely exhausting.

Add that to being a student, employed, having to do chapter fundraisers, campus and citywide philanthropy, making sure your chapter is in compliance with NHQ and the school, and being a small chapter.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Kevin

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

Yes and it requires available members to be paired.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by Kevin

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

That's pretty cool. What school?

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

Ahh...the memories of Spring Jam....

I miss the U

Carry on people...

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

So true about the U of MN. I mean we are barely able to keep our chapters vital within our own orgs--which is why many of us have citywide chapters that incorporate other schools in the Cities.

The chartering of DST actually happened because of Macalaster, not the U of MN. And I believe the same with the Kappas.

[L.O.C.K.]

I HATE Greek Week. When I was president of our MGC (which at the time was all the Black, Latino/a, and Asian Greeks on campus), we decided to participate in Greek Week.

They gave us a day to have an event. We had a charity bowling event where orgs brought books as their fee for participating. PhiPsi brought like 120 books. THAT part was awesome.

What was not awesome was the focus on the stupid competitions and how the NPC/IFC orgs just send their pledges in their place, instead of actual members going.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

I HATE Greek Week. When I was president of our MGC (which at the time was all the Black, Latino/a, and Asian Greeks on campus), we decided to participate in Greek Week.

They gave us a day to have an event. We had a charity bowling event where orgs brought books as their fee for participating. PhiPsi brought like 120 books. THAT part was awesome.

What was not awesome was the focus on the stupid competitions and how the NPC/IFC orgs just send their pledges in their place, instead of actual members going.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

LOL.

Many individuals and groups just don't see the fun or value in Greek Week and don't think it's worth sacrificing anything to participate in. We sacrifice for our organizations because we pledged lifetime commitments to them. So we will do things for the university and community that we don't always have the time or inclination to do otherwise. Greek Week sometimes not included.

An example is that parties and stepshows are usually fundraisers for chapter operations and philanthropy. Sure stepshows and parties are part of the social aspect and sometimes good for Greek unity but most of the time they are tedious and tiring undertakings. If we could raise the money for the chapter without coordinating or stepping in stepshows and parties, many chapters would. And we'd just ATTEND another chapter's stepshows and parties if we are looking for a social outlet.

So when someone tells us that we have to attend events that have no real benefit to us in many contexts, many of us would rather spend our time and energy in more important and necessary places.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Needless to say, planning it with the NPC/IFC leadership was like being beaten with a rusty hammer and then having vingegar poured in the wounds.

The MGC organizations were MUCH more focused on having philanthropy be a large part of it, while the IFC orgs only cared about competition (which was good for us for the donating the books) and the NPC orgs cared about the damn T-Shirt design.

I am not hating on general councils, just that from my experience in organizing Greek Week and going to those God-forsaken awful meetings with ignorant leaderhsip was not something I want to do again.


But, here's to unity and looking good for the school paper!! ::rolls eyes::

I totally, 100% feel you on this. I sat in on a Greek President's meeting at my school and walked out early. There was about ten minutes worth of important discussion about matters that were relevant to the campus, and then the next hour of the meeting dealt with different orgs arguing over the specific rules and policies regarding a recruitment brochure. I left before the Greek Awards planning debate. I hope the student body wasn't too upset.

I'll admit that the NPHC orgs on my campus have had some differences and rivalries, but our discussions at meetings are necessary only to make sure that two or three orgs don't have important programs or functions scheudled on the same day. I swear that most of the archaic rules surrounding fraternities and sororities on campus were made because of IFC/NPC organizations.