What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

That and some schools' events were perceived as being contrary to the NPHC orgs' practices. The only example I can think of was the Greek Week practice of wearing official pins across campus on certain days. Many NPHC chapters refused to, especially since the Greek Office tried to dictate how it should be worn so folks could see it. We'd rather wear unofficial pins or other letters.

That's totally stupid. Everyone has different "pin attire" rules and for some people this would consist of sticking a pin on w/ your jeans, some would have had to wear dress clothing. It seems like it would have been much better to have a "Show Off Who You Are" day or something of the like and wear letters/pins/colors however each group saw fit.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And where did you go? Must have been a Pretty Insacure place.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 33girl

That's totally stupid. Everyone has different "pin attire" rules and for some people this would consist of sticking a pin on w/ your jeans, some would have had to wear dress clothing. It seems like it would have been much better to have a "Show Off Who You Are" day or something of the like and wear letters/pins/colors however each group saw fit.

I agree. That's what happens when you have Greek Advisors who aren't Greek or who come from Greek systems where they were exposed to only a few organizations.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I think BGLO orgs sometimes bring segregation in when there isn't any. For example at my school we always ask several BGLOs to participate in Greek Week and they never do. That's so sad . At my school there is an NPHC fraternity that is the 1st BGLO to have a house on fraternity and sorority row. I see this as integration. If they separate themselves from NPC/IFC greeks then this is what causes segregation.

Participation or not in 'Greek Week' has more to do with culture than race. I know that when I was in school, the NPHC orgs had their own 'week' (normally around their Founders Day) where open and closed service and social activities were performed each day. The activites performed during the NPC/IFC Greek Week did not appeal to the NPHC groups as a whole and often conflicted with calendars that include many off-campus obligations.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I have meet several members of predominantly Asian greek-lettered organizations on my campus.

I see that these greek-lettered organizations are sorely needed for the sharing and cohesiveness within the respective group.

Which I found it really funny. In my school, we have a huge population of asians, but most of them don't have the need to join any of these AGLOs because we have different clubs and societies that fit their needs. As a matter of fact, they tend to be closer then those who are in AGLOs. Of course this doesn't speak for the rest of the colleges in US.

I don't really mean to offend anyone in these AGLO, but how I and other people see it, as AKA says, are for the sole purpose cohesiveness (like partying and such). I barely see them do anything else besides social. But mind you, that's only a few groups I've seen. I've seen this one particular AGLO which are huge on community service...since well, they do say they are a community service based sorority, and they did soup kitchens, blood drives, charity events to give back to the society.

[L.O.C.K.]

Asian American Greeks differ VASTLY depending on where you are. Many of the organizations in California are much older local organizations, with no national infrastructure. Moreover, due to the high numbers of Asian Americans in California, you will have large chapters and a different focus.

When I was in California, I couldn't believe the difference between West Coast Asian Greeks and East Coast ones. It was like night and day.

Organizations established at schools with very small Asian American populations usually have a much stronger focus on giving back to the community and serving the APIA community. Moreover, the main way people find out about our organizations is through going to General Body Meetings for Asian Organizations on campus where they meet brothers or sisters of the respective organizations. So, there is MUCH more involvement from what I have seen on the East Coast (and I presume Midwest and South too) than in California.

Indeed, when I discusses this issue with the former director of Greek Life at one of the large state schools, she lamented how the Asian American Greeks were not involved with their Multicultural Center and Asian Orgs on campus. That is much different than what I have experienced on the EC.

As for populations...

There is a HUGE difference between Asian and Asian AMERICAN. Most people in the majority don't realize this. I can't tell you the amount of brothers/friends I have who have been told they have "excellent English" or something similar, when in fact they were born in the U.S.

Students from ASIA, have very low participation in AGLOs. Like VERY low. You might get one or two per school, but it's usually mostly Asian American (or people who immigrated when they were like 2).

Moreover, the economic situation is very different for Asian vs. Asian American. Asians who come here usually have more capital because they are International Students and the regulations required to get a visa in their countries. Asian Americans have as diverse an economic background as any other race in the country.

Additionally, it really depends on the school Private Schools with higher tuition draw a MUCH different crowd then a state school, all across the board.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

And where did you go? Must have been a Pretty Insacure place.

I went to Minnesota, my home town.

CG I think your spelling is off again.

[AKA_Monet]

I can only speak for my Sorority. In my city, my Sorority's undergraduate chapter is very closely tied to its alumnae chapter. Such as we are mandated to meet together and hold a joint meeting twice a year.

Activities at the schools and time spending with other GLO's is the LEAST of my Sorority's worries.

When most of the "average" African American female students have major personal issues usually connected to family and financial aid, you would be lucky with all the other activities we are required to do to participate in such a mundane greek-week school function that fails to perpetuate uplifting ALL students.

Why bother?

I am sorry, but I am unable to relate to chug-a-lugging goldfish or stilleto races; when things in my community and my personal life are crazy...

And the same kinds of stereotypes happen when the police see us at our parties.

As a former graduate advisor, it has to be about giving back to the community 100% of the time because given the "society" we live in, we are LUCKY to be at these kinds of "institutions". Bottomline, it is about graduating.

Now, if you are discussing a HBCU, then that is a totally different discussion. Yet, there are quite a few faculty who are greek and demand a level of sophistication. But ONLY at a HBCU you will see 60+-membered chapters that are capable of doing the kind of greek week that is envisioned.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

Participation or not in 'Greek Week' has more to do with culture than race. I know that when I was in school, the NPHC orgs had their own 'week' (normally around their Founders Day) where open and closed service and social activities were performed each day. The activites performed during the NPC/IFC Greek Week did not appeal to the NPHC groups as a whole and often conflicted with calendars that include many off-campus obligations.

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

It's extremely exhausting.

Add that to being a student, employed, having to do chapter fundraisers, campus and citywide philanthropy, making sure your chapter is in compliance with NHQ and the school, and being a small chapter.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

But that is just an account of my school. Other greeks at other schools do things a lot differently. Honestly, it's nothing personal. It's more like the planning of those "greek week" type activities is terrible on my campus. When a bunch of NPC/IFC members complain how they would rather be somewhere else than at some of those practices and functions, it's hard to really be inspired to make an obligation.

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Kevin

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

Yes and it requires available members to be paired.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by Kevin

NPHC organizations are generally paired with NPC and NIC groups and our LGLO's for Greek Week, homecoming, etc. By paired, I mean that generally, a team will consist of an NIC, and NPC, and an NPHC or LGLO.

-- or at least that's what I think I saw at the homecoming parade.

That's pretty cool. What school?

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

That's the way it is at my school. It's not that any NPHC groups avoid the IFC/NPC greek week or the harcore homecoming/spring-jam competitions, it's just that more time and resources were spent for a full week for each individual organization. Most of the campus activities our groups hold are packed. We are able to be more flexible and creative with the activities we want to have as well. I mean, coming out for a game of flag football or kickball would be one thing, but to spend months preparing for a co-ed ultimate frisbee competition along with a gymnastics/dance/lip sync hybrid that only means something to a very small percentage of the student body just seems exhausting.

Ahh...the memories of Spring Jam....

I miss the U

Carry on people...

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by jaynu

What do other organizations think about us?

You're not going to get a straight answer for this simply b/c every GLO is viewed differently by everyone. Some orgs might see you guys in a positive light and others might have a different opinion.