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Originally Posted by macallan25
Delt Alum, "respectfully" I strongly disagree with you. This thread shouldn't even be in this forum. For the 220394857 time......you don't know what happened....at all. You have continually posted in this thread like you do. There is absolutely no reason for you to keep making posts concerning Risk Management without any adequate information concerning what happened. You are trying to lecture people on a situation that you don't even know exists. I can make a 30 second phone call and find out far more than you have from a lengthy article. (I have, more than once, because I am good friends with many of those guys.)
For you to take this man's death, turn it around, and try to lecture us on RM policy, what is and isn't legal, what should happen to the chapter, and whether or not you think SAE is a good organization is extremely disrespectful and uncalled for. It is pretty much a slap in the face.
"Teachable Moment"?? Are you serious?
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I was the one who started the thread. In hindsight, I should have put it in the Greek Life thread. If my putting it in Risk Management offends anyone at the SAE HQ or the members of the SMU chapter, I sincerely apologize. And just to be clear, there is no sarcasm at all in that statement.
Now, defending DeltAlum. His first post had a condolence message in it. He then went on to talk about a similar incident that he was aware of in his own fraternity and the consequences it involved. You seem to take issue with his phrase "in the house". If he was mistaken in this, why didn't you just point it out? Your own first post did not offer condolences to the chapter, but said: "Long night filled with lots of drinking and lots of blow. That's all you need to know." Please, calmly explain how saying that shows the respect for the dead young man, his family, and his chapter that you feel DA is not showing.
Instead, you came back with a statement that basically says that no matter what the SAE chapter at SMU does, your HQ would not close it. DA didn't argue with your statement at SAE. He just stated the facts in the Ohio State/Delta Tau Delta case and then agreed that he doesn't know the whole story about the what happened at SMU this weekend. After this is when you finally make the statement that the party was off campus. (And, hate to tell you, if it was a fraternity sponsered event and the under age member was there drinking, yes, the chapter can still be held responsible.)
Nowhere in his posts have I read him 'lecturing' anyone. He offered condolences, shared a similar situation that he was involved in and the consequences, made a couple of posts about responsibility, and basically been attacked. He deserves none of it.
If you have a problem with what someone posts and if it is 'appropriate' or not in this forum or thread, let Kevin know. He will take measures. If you don't feel like Kevin did the right thing, let John know. He is the ultimate ruler of GC.
And, I am truly sorry to have to add more of this bs to a thread that was genuinely started to inform people of a sad event at SAE SMU chapter.
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