Now my favorite: US Airways

[squirrely girl]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Once on board, they left their seats and sat in what is recognized as a pattern Al Qaieda uses to test the security of a plane-- blocking both the entrances and exits.

even i get up and walk around - mostly cause i hate to sit still for too long

NOT DIRECTED AT ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR -->

but people will ALWAYS try to justify their paranoia and racism after the fact so that they can feel better about themselves and not look like a total bigot

- m

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by squirrely girl

even i get up and walk around - mostly cause i hate to sit still for too long

NOT DIRECTED AT ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR -->

but people will ALWAYS try to justify their paranoia and racism after the fact so that they can feel better about themselves and not look like a total bigot

- m

I agree. I think it's just simpler to say "Yes, we were paranoid and biased but we were scared and our decision was made under those conditions."

[tunatartare]

I wonder what people would think if they ever flew El Al. My flight to Tel Aviv had a bunch of rabbis (including the one from my youth group) flying out there for a convention. In the middle of the flight, they all got up, went to the back of the plane, and started praying (we're talking at least 20 men here).

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

I wonder what people would think if they ever flew El Al. My flight to Tel Aviv had a bunch of rabbis (including the one from my youth group) flying out there for a convention. In the middle of the flight, they all got up, went to the back of the plane, and started praying (we're talking at least 20 men here).

No one would probably say anything because we all know that only Muslims kill other people.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

I wonder what people would think if they ever flew El Al. My flight to Tel Aviv had a bunch of rabbis (including the one from my youth group) flying out there for a convention. In the middle of the flight, they all got up, went to the back of the plane, and started praying (we're talking at least 20 men here).

When a group of Jewish rabbis blows up a plane, then people will get concerned. When a group of Jewish rabbis blows up planes often, hijacks them, etc. then Jewish rabbis will get a reputation. And when Jewish people in general either sit idle or don't consistently denounce these individuals without offering some kind of excuses (ie they were upset at American foreign policy), then Jews in general may be considered potential terrorists. That's just the way it is. People may not like it. But that's how it is. And most people are OK with infringing on a few people's civil liberties to make sure thousands don't die. Plus El Al conducts one of the most comprehensive security checks of any airline. There are armed undercover guards throughout the planes, the planes usually leave from secure terminals, and they even ask Jewish people questions on their upbringing to make sure they are who they say they are. So I doubt many people would worry about anyone praying on El Al.

-Rudey

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by Rudey

When a group of Jewish rabbis blows up a plane, then people will get concerned. When a group of Jewish rabbis blows up planes often, hijacks them, etc. then Jewish rabbis will get a reputation. And when Jewish people in general either sit idle or don't consistently denounce these individuals without offering some kind of excuses (ie they were upset at American foreign policy), then Jews in general may be considered potential terrorists. That's just the way it is. People may not like it. But that's how it is. And most people are OK with infringing on a few people's civil liberties to make sure thousands don't die. Plus El Al conducts one of the most comprehensive security checks of any airline. There are armed undercover guards throughout the planes, the planes usually leave from secure terminals, and they even ask Jewish people questions on their upbringing to make sure they are who they say they are. So I doubt many people would worry about anyone praying on El Al.

-Rudey

El Al's security checks are amazing and I truly believe every airline should do it. We would never have another 9/11 again. Yes, the boarding process takes longer but it's thorough. When I flew to Jerusalem with my family, they questioned us about holidays, prayers, where we live, etc.

I'd be willing to stand in line longer and be asked a bunch of questions if it means my flight is safer.

[Tom Earp]

The problem is a knee jerk reaction isn't?

How in the hell does a lady of grey/blue hair in a wheel chair try to get on an Airline and have to take her orthopedict shoes off to be checked?l

Or say a much maturer man with shorts and polo shirt have to take his shoes off for a bomb? Be scanned with a wand to see if any bombs are found in his tennis shoes?

Oh, maybe the Old lady in the wheel chair had bomb in her wheel chair or the Mature older man had explosives in his tennies?

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

[Texas Beta]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Old days? How old are ya?

I wonder if Arab owned airliners beefed up security, besides companies which fly to western countries. Is there a need? Maybe theres some crazy white person out there, but I doubt it.

[honeychile]

Playing against type is exactly what a smart terrorist would do. That's why geriatrics are inconvenienced - for everyone's safety!

I've never flown El Al, but have heard amazing things about the security of the airlines, and the airports of Israel. It seems so simple, but it really surprised me to hear that the columns inside of the airports are made of lead, so they can absorb bullets & shrapnel.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

The problem is a knee jerk reaction isn't?

How in the hell does a lady of grey/blue hair in a wheel chair try to get on an Airline and have to take her orthopedict shoes off to be checked?l

Or say a much maturer man with shorts and polo shirt have to take his shoes off for a bomb? Be scanned with a wand to see if any bombs are found in his tennis shoes?

Oh, maybe the Old lady in the wheel chair had bomb in her wheel chair or the Mature older man had explosives in his tennies?

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Shut your mouth.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

The problem is a knee jerk reaction isn't?

How in the hell does a lady of grey/blue hair in a wheel chair try to get on an Airline and have to take her orthopedict shoes off to be checked?l

Or say a much maturer man with shorts and polo shirt have to take his shoes off for a bomb? Be scanned with a wand to see if any bombs are found in his tennis shoes?

Oh, maybe the Old lady in the wheel chair had bomb in her wheel chair or the Mature older man had explosives in his tennies?

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Tom, a white middle aged man did have explosives in his shoes, hence the check. That just went to show that you can never be complacent when it comes to putting passengers in a hollow metal tube full of jet fuel that flies thousands of feet in the air.
I miss the old days when I never worried about getting blown up...oh wait, I have never not worried about getting blown up. But still...