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Old 11-20-2006, 05:33 PM
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I think he made a poor choice in using racial slurs like that, but unless he makes it a habit of doing that...I wouldn't necessarily call him a racist.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:36 PM
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WOW.Talk about out of control...I can't even find words to describe it. I'm still steaming. Clearly he has some deep-seated issues.
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Old 11-20-2006, 08:45 PM
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I question his mental health after seeing the clip... but then again, it seems sometimes that one of the qualifications for being a comedian is mental instability!
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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Yeah I think its pretty rough, total lack of control. But I agree, I think that simply because somebody uses racial slurs doesn't mean they have a racist personality. I'm pretty sure we've all been in a situation where we went for the jugular, and for the non-creative, maybe the N word is the best they could do.
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Old 11-20-2006, 09:12 PM
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No matter how drunk I was or if I was super pissed at someone I still wouldn't reference lynching or use the n-word. I think the fact that he found the choice of language to be even in the ballpark of what's acceptable makes him DEFINITELY racist....and a jackass. This is BEYOND a poor choice. It's not like he didn't know he was in front of hundreds of people.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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No matter how drunk I was or if I was super pissed at someone I still wouldn't reference lynching or use the n-word. I think the fact that he found the choice of language to be even in the ballpark of what's acceptable makes him DEFINITELY racist....and a jackass. This is BEYOND a poor choice. It's not like he didn't know he was in front of hundreds of people.

Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....

Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:00 PM
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Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....

Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.
It's kind of creepy that you wrote almost the exact same thing as me...unless you meant to...
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:12 PM
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Take this as you will, I'm white so I have limited perspective on this incident.
And I'm brown and yellow.

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Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....

Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.

I definitely agree.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:17 AM
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I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....
Actually, he would be a racist.

In this case, Kramer was racist.

You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:27 AM
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Actually, he would be a racist.

In this case, Kramer was racist.

You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.
No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.

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Old 11-21-2006, 04:04 AM
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No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.
I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:39 PM
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I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???
Why do black people call themselves that all the time? I'm sorry but its almost like they are welcoming the probobility of a non-black using the word towards them. I certainly don't go around calling my friends "crackers" and "whiteys."
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Old 11-21-2006, 09:44 AM
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No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.
Well, nowadays, even if you said the n-word, you may not be seen as a racist due to the fact that the entertainment/music world has been overusing this word that people have been become insensative about it.

However, on the other hand, saying that a certain race 50 years should be hung upside down and have a f- fork stuck in their a--? If you don't call that racist, seriously, then what would you call it?
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:42 AM
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There are lots of ways to call a heckler an asshole (starting with, well, asshole) without commenting on their race. If he's definitely guilty of anything, he's guilty of being a lame-o who can't think quickly under pressure.
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