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11-20-2006, 05:33 PM
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I think he made a poor choice in using racial slurs like that, but unless he makes it a habit of doing that...I wouldn't necessarily call him a racist.
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11-20-2006, 08:36 PM
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WOW.Talk about out of control...I can't even find words to describe it. I'm still steaming. Clearly he has some deep-seated issues.
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11-20-2006, 08:45 PM
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I question his mental health after seeing the clip... but then again, it seems sometimes that one of the qualifications for being a comedian is mental instability!
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11-20-2006, 09:08 PM
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Yeah I think its pretty rough, total lack of control. But I agree, I think that simply because somebody uses racial slurs doesn't mean they have a racist personality. I'm pretty sure we've all been in a situation where we went for the jugular, and for the non-creative, maybe the N word is the best they could do.
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11-20-2006, 09:13 PM
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11-20-2006, 09:12 PM
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No matter how drunk I was or if I was super pissed at someone I still wouldn't reference lynching or use the n-word. I think the fact that he found the choice of language to be even in the ballpark of what's acceptable makes him DEFINITELY racist....and a jackass. This is BEYOND a poor choice. It's not like he didn't know he was in front of hundreds of people.
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11-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OtterXO
No matter how drunk I was or if I was super pissed at someone I still wouldn't reference lynching or use the n-word. I think the fact that he found the choice of language to be even in the ballpark of what's acceptable makes him DEFINITELY racist....and a jackass. This is BEYOND a poor choice. It's not like he didn't know he was in front of hundreds of people.
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Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....
Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.
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11-20-2006, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....
Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.
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It's kind of creepy that you wrote almost the exact same thing as me...unless you meant to...
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11-20-2006, 11:12 PM
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Take this as you will, I'm white so I have limited perspective on this incident.
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Dropping the n-word doesn't make you a racist. I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....
Despising another race with the upmost hatred and putting your own above everyone else is what makes you a racist. Was he racially insensitive?, absolutely. It was shocking and inexcusable...but I don't think you can call him a racist.
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I definitely agree.
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11-21-2006, 02:17 AM
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I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....
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Actually, he would be a racist.
In this case, Kramer was racist.
You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.
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11-21-2006, 02:27 AM
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Actually, he would be a racist.
In this case, Kramer was racist.
You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.
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No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.
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11-21-2006, 04:04 AM
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No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.
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I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???
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11-21-2006, 02:39 PM
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I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???
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Why do black people call themselves that all the time? I'm sorry but its almost like they are welcoming the probobility of a non-black using the word towards them. I certainly don't go around calling my friends "crackers" and "whiteys."
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11-21-2006, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macallan25
No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.
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Well, nowadays, even if you said the n-word, you may not be seen as a racist due to the fact that the entertainment/music world has been overusing this word that people have been become insensative about it.
However, on the other hand, saying that a certain race 50 years should be hung upside down and have a f- fork stuck in their a--? If you don't call that racist, seriously, then what would you call it?
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11-21-2006, 10:42 AM
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There are lots of ways to call a heckler an asshole (starting with, well, asshole) without commenting on their race. If he's definitely guilty of anything, he's guilty of being a lame-o who can't think quickly under pressure.
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