Michael Richards aka "Kramer" racist?

_Opi_ · #1 11-21-2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I wouldn't call a black guy racist if he called me a cracker or something like that....

Actually, he would be a racist.

In this case, Kramer was racist.

You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.

macallan25 · #2 11-21-2006, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_

Actually, he would be a racist.

In this case, Kramer was racist.

You shouldnt use these racist terms if you don't want to be thought of as a racist. end of story.

No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.

_Opi_ · #3 11-21-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.

I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???

macallan25 · #4 11-21-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by _Opi_

I'm sorry but if someone said nigger or "nigguh" to me I would think he/she would be racist. I wouldn't dwell on their why they would say something, but as long as it was "unwelcome" and "unnecessary", I would deem them to be racist. Otherwise, WHY would that person say something racist if they didn't want to be seen that way???

Why do black people call themselves that all the time? I'm sorry but its almost like they are welcoming the probobility of a non-black using the word towards them. I certainly don't go around calling my friends "crackers" and "whiteys."

DSTCHAOS · #5 11-21-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Why do black people call themselves that all the time?

You just worry about not using those terms.

_Opi_ · #6 11-21-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Why do black people call themselves that all the time? I'm sorry but its almost like they are welcoming the probobility of a non-black using the word towards them. I certainly don't go around calling my friends "crackers" and "whiteys."

I don't care why people call each other that. The word in and of itself is racist and if you use it, don't go crying about it if someone calls you out on it.

cutie_cat_4ever · #7 11-21-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

No actually, he wouldn't be a racist...he was racially insensitive. Whether or not you think he is racist because he used the term is besides the point. Just because a person thinks something about you doesn't necessarily make it true. You don't know him well enought to deem him a racist.......if he went on a spiel about how he thinks whites are superior to blacks, then I would call him a racist.

Well, nowadays, even if you said the n-word, you may not be seen as a racist due to the fact that the entertainment/music world has been overusing this word that people have been become insensative about it.

However, on the other hand, saying that a certain race 50 years should be hung upside down and have a f- fork stuck in their a--? If you don't call that racist, seriously, then what would you call it?

33girl · #8 11-21-2006, 10:42 AM

There are lots of ways to call a heckler an asshole (starting with, well, asshole) without commenting on their race. If he's definitely guilty of anything, he's guilty of being a lame-o who can't think quickly under pressure.

CutiePie2000 · #9 11-21-2006, 12:31 PM

His career is done. The End.

DSTCHAOS · #10 11-21-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

Well, nowadays, even if you said the n-word, you may not be seen as a racist due to the fact that the entertainment/music world has been overusing this word that people have been become insensative about it.

Incorrect.

Even with the derivatives of the word, the N word will always have a place in history and in the hearts of many Americans. The entertainment world hasn't made it appropriate for white people to say the N word. The only white people I can tolerate saying that word in any form are white sociolinguists and even these professionals try not to overuse that contextual privilege.

DSTCHAOS · #11 11-21-2006, 12:52 PM

Did anyone see David Letterman last night? How did it go?

Drolefille · #12 11-21-2006, 12:58 PM

The guy actually apologized. Didn't blame alchohol/drugs/bad parenting. Just that he messed up and he was wrong. I give him credit for that. But it seemed the wrong forum for an apology.

jessXIca · #13 11-21-2006, 12:58 PM

I think he has some kind of mental health problem. Normal people don't just lose it like that. He was real shaky on Letterman, too.

And I love how he's such a has-been that the media is identifying him as "Kramer" and not by his actual name...

OtterXO · #14 11-21-2006, 01:00 PM

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Did anyone see David Letterman last night? How did it go?

It was very uncomfortable. He was rambling on about being sorry and that he's not racist. I think he should have left it alone.....the Letterman appearance didn't do much for him.

sigmadiva · #15 11-21-2006, 02:42 PM

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It was very uncomfortable. He was rambling on about being sorry and that he's not racist. I think he should have left it alone.....the Letterman appearance didn't do much for him.

I saw it too. I think the gravity of the situation was sinking in. At one point he was actually shaking.

I don't think 'Kramer' was being so much a racist, as he was just probably trying to get the hecklers to shut-up. I think he probably thought that if he could really insult them then they would shut up. He just used a bad choice of words.

I'm not saying that what he did is excusable. I mean he is probably very frustrated that his TV/movie career has tanked, and now he is back doing club stand up.