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11-05-2006, 08:13 PM
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Killing people is bad! We're going to kill you to prove that! Now everybody will see that it is bad. 
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11-05-2006, 08:17 PM
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Killing people is bad! We're going to kill you to prove that! Now everybody will see that it is bad. |
Do you see what happens when you kill people? You get killed too! This will work as a deterrent, I promise!
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11-05-2006, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by centaur532
Do you see what happens when you kill people? You get killed too! This will work as a deterrent, I promise!
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I'm not sure the lack of deterrent effect is really an appropriate argument here, considering the vast cultural differences (and extreme differences in what is considered 'appropriate' punishment) - besides this, I would probably have to argue that 'symbolic' punishments are far more appropriate a comparison in this case, since you can't really come up with a commensurate or appropriate punishment/rehabilitation strategy for someone who, y'know, gassed 5000 Kurds.
It's just not a similar system or situation, so I really don't feel comfortable getting all argumentative up in this bitch, GP/centaur.
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11-05-2006, 09:05 PM
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I'm not sure the lack of deterrent effect is really an appropriate argument here, considering the vast cultural differences (and extreme differences in what is considered 'appropriate' punishment) - besides this, I would probably have to argue that 'symbolic' punishments are far more appropriate a comparison in this case, since you can't really come up with a commensurate or appropriate punishment/rehabilitation strategy for someone who, y'know, gassed 5000 Kurds.
It's just not a similar system or situation, so I really don't feel comfortable getting all argumentative up in this bitch.
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I don't like the death penalty ever. I agree that what he did was heinous but I just don't think it is ever okay.
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11-05-2006, 09:08 PM
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I don't like the death penalty ever. I agree that what he did was heinous but I just don't think it is ever okay.
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Word, and I don't necessarily disagree - but the whole point is that the rationale behind why I don't really get down w/ CapPun doesn't necessarily apply directly here. It seems a little counterproductive, is what I'm getting at.
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11-05-2006, 09:11 PM
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Word, and I don't necessarily disagree - but the whole point is that the rationale behind why I don't really get down w/ CapPun doesn't necessarily apply directly here. It seems a little counterproductive, is what I'm getting at.
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It doesn't really, I just dislike the whole "I love the death penalty" train of thought.
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11-08-2006, 02:08 PM
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Word, and I don't necessarily disagree - but the whole point is that the rationale behind why I don't really get down w/ CapPun doesn't necessarily apply directly here. It seems a little counterproductive, is what I'm getting at.
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ditto on the above - this whole thing is just a crazy convoluted mess
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11-05-2006, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KSig RC
I'm not sure the lack of deterrent effect is really an appropriate argument here, considering the vast cultural differences (and extreme differences in what is considered 'appropriate' punishment) - besides this, I would probably have to argue that 'symbolic' punishments are far more appropriate a comparison in this case, since you can't really come up with a commensurate or appropriate punishment/rehabilitation strategy for someone who, y'know, gassed 5000 Kurds.
It's just not a similar system or situation, so I really don't feel comfortable getting all argumentative up in this bitch, GP/centaur.
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I know it's a different system. However, realize that the only countries in the world other than the USA who use the death penalty are run by a theocracy. Some may argue that the USA is headed towards a theocracy, but that's irrelevant to this discussion. I understand that in the middle east, this is an acceptable form of punishment. However, in the society we live in, I cannot accept it. Therein lies the difference.
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