Republican Morality

[PerroLoco]

Rev. Haggard anyone? Chief Priest of the Conservative Evangelicans, Bush's front man on the war against gay marriage is a closeted buggerer himself. Holy Pillow-biter Batman!!!!!!

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by PerroLoco

Rev. Haggard anyone? Chief Priest of the Conservative Evangelicans, Bush's front man on the war against gay marriage is a closeted buggerer himself. Holy Pillow-biter Batman!!!!!!

You're an idiot. Doesn't represent most evangelicals, and little if any connection to the administration.

[AXEAM]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You're an idiot. Doesn't represent most evangelicals, and little if any connection to the administration.

He had several several meetings w/Bush, he also made frequent calls to the White House so to state that he had little connection to the administration is plain wrong.

[shinerbock]

I've met Bush. Rush Limbaugh's had conversations with Bush. Nancy Pelosi has probably had several meetings with Bush. This doesn't mean he has any significant connections to the administration, it means he's had some contact with the President. He's a leader of an organization, like say, PETA or the NAACP. However, I doubt you'd say leaders of those organizations were "connected to the administration."

[AXEAM]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I've met Bush. Rush Limbaugh's had conversations with Bush. Nancy Pelosi has probably had several meetings with Bush. This doesn't mean he has any significant connections to the administration, it means he's had some contact with the President. He's a leader of an organization, like say, PETA or the NAACP. However, I doubt you'd say leaders of those organizations were "connected to the administration."

Man you really try your best to change reality w/ rhetoric. Peta nor the NAACP make frequent conference calls to the White House as did Haggard.

[shinerbock]

Please post what information you have regarding his connections to the White House...Lets see, he's a Christian leader, and Christians make up a large portion of the Republican party...You don't think Bush meets with leaders of black organizations, or environmental organizations? Of course he does, granted, he may not care for what they have to say, but he meets with leaders from a wide variety of groups. I have seen nothing which indicates that this guy had any role in the administration's plans for marriage. My pastor is against gay marriage, would his meeting with Bush be significant? People just do anything they can to tie some guy's downfall to Bush. The president of Penn was photographed with a guy dressed up as a bomber for halloween, I'm sure its only a matter of time before we find secret letters connecting her agenda to the Bush White House.

[AXEAM]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Please post what information you have regarding his connections to the White House...Lets see, he's a Christian leader, and Christians make up a large portion of the Republican party...You don't think Bush meets with leaders of black organizations, or environmental organizations? Of course he does, granted, he may not care for what they have to say, but he meets with leaders from a wide variety of groups. I have seen nothing which indicates that this guy had any role in the administration's plans for marriage. My pastor is against gay marriage, would his meeting with Bush be significant? People just do anything they can to tie some guy's downfall to Bush. The president of Penn was photographed with a guy dressed up as a bomber for halloween, I'm sure its only a matter of time before we find secret letters connecting her agenda to the Bush White House.

The connection is that he made weekly or bi-weekly conference calls to the White house and also consulted w/ members of the White house on Gay marriage,judicial appointments as well as steel tariffs. Haggard even bragged about the direct connections that he had w/ the White House, we all know that the White House will down play Haggard's connections now as they did w/ Jack Abramoff. Now to address another one of your mis-informed post, let me ask if the leader of an organization isn't the ultimate representative of that organization then who is?

[PerroLoco]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

You're an idiot. Doesn't represent most evangelicals, and little if any connection to the administration.

Isn't the "elected" president of anything the "representative" of that organization? You really need to stop with the knee-jerk blanket apologies for those that are either wrong or hypocritical in the name of Republicanism. Please stop drinking the Kool-Aid and think for yourself. I don't defend ant Dem that is wrong, be it Howard Dean or John Kerry. Wrong is wrong whether in a Blue or Red state.

BTW, as an opponent of the legalization of gay marriage (an oxymoron), and a member of an evangelical church, it does my position no favor to have such miscreants undermining a position that I happen to share. Haggard should have recused himself knowing his proclivities for vice. A drug abusing sodomite is the antithesis of the positions that he was ordained for and elected to. As such, he needs to be above reproach. I don't exult in Haggard's difficulties, rather I pity him and the church movement that has been hurt by his misdeeds and will pray for the restoration of both.

[shinerbock]

When did I ever apologize for him. Simply because you're the leader of some sect of evangelical Christianity does not mean you're their voice. I think he's disgusting, try reading next time.