Michigan's Prop 2 to ban affirmative action

shinerbock · #1 11-03-2006, 01:11 PM

So i guess two wrongs do make a right.

RU OX Alum · #2 11-03-2006, 01:43 PM

i don't know about that, but three rights make a left

DeltAlum · #3 11-03-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

So i guess two wrongs do make a right.

Nope. But nobody's has proven to me that Affirmative Action is completely wrong.

I've lost potential jobs because of Affirmative Action -- but I'm smart enough to realize that in the past my industry was almost entirely dominated by white males.

I won't be bitter that I have (and was told as much in plain English) been the victim of a process to right what I believe to have been an injustice.

shinerbock · #4 11-03-2006, 03:32 PM

I haven't lost jobs, and I don't think I'd be overly bitter, I just think its the wrong thing to do.

Taualumna · #5 11-03-2006, 04:02 PM

Not all minorities are considered "minorities" for AA. Asians (at least in California) do not benefit from Affirmative Action for school admissions.

AKA_Monet · #6 11-03-2006, 08:30 PM

I think we live in a much more selfish society than we use to be.

Folks saying here and there that if so-in-so got into school for piss poor reasons, then blah, blah, blah.

How come you all give a rat's ass about who got into to wherever, however?

Like my mom said to me when I looked on her plate, "keep your eyes on your own plate!!!"

I don't want to hear about what you think fair. I just want to know why folks here on GC even care who gets into college? How does someone's admission to any SCHOOL affect Y-O-U?

macallan25 · #7 11-03-2006, 09:20 PM

I would think that people appying to schools and programs with very limited acceptances would have an argument.

AKA_Monet · #8 11-06-2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I would think that people appying to schools and programs with very limited acceptances would have an argument.

But it is "that one" school--like I will only apply to Michigan because they can barely hang on at #2 in the BCS...

Or, I am only applying to SEC schools because they have the better football teams...

But what's up with the ACC? Wake Forest beat that ass...

Then look at Boise St. for the WAC...

shinerbock · #9 11-04-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

I think we live in a much more selfish society than we use to be.

Folks saying here and there that if so-in-so got into school for piss poor reasons, then blah, blah, blah.

How come you all give a rat's ass about who got into to wherever, however?

Like my mom said to me when I looked on her plate, "keep your eyes on your own plate!!!"

I don't want to hear about what you think fair. I just want to know why folks here on GC even care who gets into college? How does someone's admission to any SCHOOL affect Y-O-U?

Now I'll preface this by saying I generally like/respect what AKA says. I hope this is sarcasm. However, if not, this is a terrible post. Most things that people like you, AKA, would say I should care about, don't have much to do with me. Hunger, poverty, insurance, none of these things has anything to do with my family. I guess I should care less then, no? Violent crime doesn't really happen here, considering I live in a safe area, so I guess I should shut such things out, yeah? When something unjust or wrong is happening, why is it just those directly impacted by it who should speak against it?

AKA_Monet · #10 11-06-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

this is a terrible post. Most things that people like you, AKA, would say I should care about, don't have much to do with me. Hunger, poverty, insurance, none of these things has anything to do with my family. I guess I should care less then, no? Violent crime doesn't really happen here, considering I live in a safe area, so I guess I should shut such things out, yeah? When something unjust or wrong is happening, why is it just those directly impacted by it who should speak against it?

Shiner-

You know, I do have to appreciate your honesty.

And I honestly, fail to understand what you are talking about... Really.

I can basically interpret your statements several ways: 1) Are you saying that these horrific "things" (hunger, poverty, insurance, etc.) happen to the systematically and systemically downtroddened? Would that not be a stereotype then?

or are you saying:

2) People in a "pluralistic society" and a "republic" should never be selected to be a part of anything. Criteria for selection should purely be driven by merit--e.g. the best man for the job, etc... Anyway else is uncivilized...