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				11-03-2006, 12:09 PM
			
			
			
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			I really don't care whether its political or not, if he did it, he did it. However, I don't think this guy who got paid to have sex with him is advancing any noble cause here. He's filth too.
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				11-03-2006, 12:25 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  I really don't care whether its political or not, if he did it, he did it. However, I don't think this guy who got paid to have sex with him is advancing any noble cause here. He's filth too. |  I don't recall commenting on his "cause."
 
Perhaps, since you don't know either man, you might want to label you "filth" comment as opinion as well.
 
I suspect there may be some people on these boards who might not choose to use that word.
		 
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			I would suspect that a gay prostitute fits many people's definitions of "filth".
		 
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					Originally Posted by AlphaFrog  I would suspect that a gay prostitute fits many people's definitions of "filth". |  Probably even most peoples opinion.  Even mine.  But not everyone.
 
And, is a "gay" prostitute morally worse than any other prostitute?
 
Both are sins.  Where in any religious teaching are levels of sin defined?
 
Or are we talking opinions again?
		 
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					Originally Posted by DeltAlum    Where in any religious teaching are levels of sin defined? |  
Catholicism.
 
See also: Mortal and Venial.
		 
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					Originally Posted by DeltAlum  Probably even most peoples opinion.  Even mine.  But not everyone.
 And, is a "gay" prostitute morally worse than any other prostitute?
 
 Both are sins.  Where in any religious teaching are levels of sin defined?
 
 Or are we talking opinions again?
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Catholicism I believe. 
 
And what is your deal with these "opinion" disclaimers. Shut up, its a message board. I'm pretty sure that most people on this forum with half a brain would realize that Shinerbock is posting his opinion when he calls a guy getting hired to have gay sex with a guy....."filth." When he says something and writes "in my book".....that is more than likely an opinion. Being a journalist, I would expect you to know that.
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					Originally Posted by macallan25  Shut up, its a message board. |  Hey, as someone pointed out, "It's a message board."
 
It's not up to you or anyone else to tell me to "Shut up."
 
And I'm a broadcaster (television director), not a journalist -- although part of the latter does rub off.
		 
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			I'm sorry, I can't read your posts until you identify whether or not it is an opinion.
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			Well, if you cheat on your wife with a man, in my book, you're a crappy person. If you have sex for money and then go to the press about it, you're probably not of the highest moral level either. Granted, we all have faults, we all fail, but some do it on a larger and more damaging scale.
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					Originally Posted by shinerbock  Well, if you cheat on your wife with a man, in my book, you're a crappy person. If you have sex for money and then go to the press about it, you're probably not of the highest moral level either. Granted, we all have faults, we all fail, but some do it on a larger and more damaging scale. |  So, cheating with another woman is okay?  And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied.
		 
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					Originally Posted by LaneSig  So, cheating with another woman is okay?  And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied. |  Well, the topic is on gay sex......so, does he really have to comment on cheating with another woman?
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					Originally Posted by macallan25  Well, the topic is on gay sex......so, does he really have to comment on cheating with another woman? |  
No, the topic is hyprocisy.
		 
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					Originally Posted by LaneSig  No, the topic is hyprocisy. |  Wow.  There's a new word.  Mind giving us a definition??
		 
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			LandSig, Well, I don't know what that word means.........but I guess I gathered that the topic was gay sex with an evangelist judging by the title of this thread and the contents of the article. 
 What, exactly, do you find hypocritical? Knowing that Shinerbock is a Southern gentleman, raised in a good environment.....i'd be willing to bet that he believes that a guy who cheats on his wife is "filth" as well.
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					Originally Posted by LaneSig  So, cheating with another woman is okay?  And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied. |  No, it was inferred.  Nothing about the statement implied that a married man cheating with a woman was okay.  
 
It was an inference that the two examples given by shinerbock, both directly related to the subject matter of the thread, were exclusive rather than illustrative. In light of the context of this thread -- the accusations concerning Haggard -- it was an unwarranted inference.
		 
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