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11-03-2006, 12:31 PM
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Well, if you cheat on your wife with a man, in my book, you're a crappy person. If you have sex for money and then go to the press about it, you're probably not of the highest moral level either. Granted, we all have faults, we all fail, but some do it on a larger and more damaging scale.
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11-03-2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Well, if you cheat on your wife with a man, in my book, you're a crappy person. If you have sex for money and then go to the press about it, you're probably not of the highest moral level either. Granted, we all have faults, we all fail, but some do it on a larger and more damaging scale.
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So, cheating with another woman is okay? And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied.
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11-03-2006, 01:48 PM
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So, cheating with another woman is okay? And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied.
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Well, the topic is on gay sex......so, does he really have to comment on cheating with another woman?
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11-03-2006, 01:54 PM
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Well, the topic is on gay sex......so, does he really have to comment on cheating with another woman?
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No, the topic is hyprocisy.
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11-03-2006, 01:58 PM
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No, the topic is hyprocisy.
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Wow. There's a new word. Mind giving us a definition??
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11-03-2006, 02:00 PM
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LandSig, Well, I don't know what that word means.........but I guess I gathered that the topic was gay sex with an evangelist judging by the title of this thread and the contents of the article.
What, exactly, do you find hypocritical? Knowing that Shinerbock is a Southern gentleman, raised in a good environment.....i'd be willing to bet that he believes that a guy who cheats on his wife is "filth" as well.
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11-03-2006, 02:08 PM
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My bad - hypocrisy. Misplaced the 'r'.
Never said shinerbock was being hypocritical. I was referring to the topic of Haggard preaching against gay marriage and then turning around and having an affair with a man. And, if you notice, shinerbock already replied back about cheating with a woman, too.
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11-03-2006, 02:22 PM
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LandSig, Well, I don't know what that word means.........but I guess I gathered that the topic was gay sex with an evangelist judging by the title of this thread and the contents of the article.
What, exactly, do you find hypocritical? Knowing that Shinerbock is a Southern gentleman, raised in a good environment.....i'd be willing to bet that he believes that a guy who cheats on his wife is "filth" as well.
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Gentleman is pushing it. Man, yes. Gentle...
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11-03-2006, 03:33 PM
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Gentleman is pushing it. Man, yes. Gentle...
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was he too rough for you? lol
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11-03-2006, 02:59 PM
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So, cheating with another woman is okay? And, no, you did not explicitly say that, but it was implied.
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No, it was inferred. Nothing about the statement implied that a married man cheating with a woman was okay.
It was an inference that the two examples given by shinerbock, both directly related to the subject matter of the thread, were exclusive rather than illustrative. In light of the context of this thread -- the accusations concerning Haggard -- it was an unwarranted inference.
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11-03-2006, 03:03 PM
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No, it was inferred. Nothing about the statement implied that a married man cheating with a woman was okay.
It was an inference that the two examples given by shinerbock, both directly related to the subject matter of the thread, were exclusive rather than illustrative. In light of the context of this thread -- the accusations concerning Haggard -- it was an unwarranted inference.
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If this wasn't an actual serious debate, this would definatly get a great big "OH, SNAP".
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11-03-2006, 03:45 PM
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No, it was inferred. Nothing about the statement implied that a married man cheating with a woman was okay.
It was an inference that the two examples given by shinerbock, both directly related to the subject matter of the thread, were exclusive rather than illustrative. In light of the context of this thread -- the accusations concerning Haggard -- it was an unwarranted inference.
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Look, I just have to teach and make sure the kids know how to infer or imply. I don't have to actually do it myself. Think of your fat a** phys ed teacher. He didn't have to do the sit-ups; just had to make sure you did.
I shake Drofille's bamboo stick of righteousness at you!
Now, back to our discussion. Is Haggard more of a hypocrite than the norm because he spoke against gay rights and marriage while having an affair with another man?
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11-03-2006, 03:51 PM
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Drofille's
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And it's a good thing you're not a French teacher.
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11-03-2006, 03:52 PM
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And early Friday afternoon, Nov. 3 '06, on CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/hag...ons/index.html
According to the story posted on CNN, Ted Haggard has now admitted that he bought meth from Mike Jones. Haggard says he didn’t use the meth; he says he threw it away. Haggard reportedly has told station KUSA-TV that he went to Jones “for a massage.”
This still seems to be a developing story.
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11-03-2006, 03:57 PM
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Look, I just have to teach and make sure the kids know how to infer or imply. I don't have to actually do it myself. Think of your fat a** phys ed teacher. He didn't have to do the sit-ups; just had to make sure you did.
I shake Drofille's bamboo stick of righteousness at you!
Now, back to our discussion. Is Haggard more of a hypocrite than the norm because he spoke against gay rights and marriage while having an affair with another man?
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it makes him an excellant example of a hypocrite, i think, but not any more so than any other hypocrite
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