School Daze question.

[shinerbock]

Well obviously Miami is a different type of town...

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by marquise1911

I guess to each region it's own. In Miami, when Mansion has Nupe Night. It's always a probominately white turnout. So I don't know what ur talking about. I've heard of white ppl call themselves weirder things. So bad example.

By the way I love skeet shoots...I can't hit a damn thing!

I don't think his examples are bad at all. Miami is simply different than everywhere else in more ways than one.......

Most white people I know (including myself) probobly don't know what Mansion or Nupe Night is. .......and way more than likely, wouldn't fit in in Miami at all. I went to the NBA Finals in Miami and I felt like I had entered some sort of Twilight Zone.

[southernelle25]

Originally Posted by bows&toes

I agree they are acting ignorant. Let me ask you this, where did that thuggish urban style originate from and which race (white or black) ...

Weren't the first to sport "thuggish urban style", such as gold chains and baggy pants, also the first gangsters? And weren't these men white Italian in origin?

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

Weren't the first to sport "thuggish urban style", such as gold chains and baggy pants, also the first gangsters? And weren't these men white Italian in origin?

No.

[southernelle25]

Nearly ever work written on early "gangster" culture in America begins with the lives and crimes of Italian, Irish, and even Jewish Americans. And though this may be politically incorrect, for many, “Italian-American” still brings to mind white men in Adidas track suits, gold chains, and leather sneakers.

[macallan25]

The first Gangsters were wearing three piece suits and fedoras....not Adidas Track Suits and gold chains.

If you want to give someone credit for popularizing those types of clothing.....I would start by looking at Run DMC.

[southernelle25]

Sadly, these early rappers glorified and popularized this aspect of Italian-American culture. The gold chains got bigger, the pants baggier.

[shinerbock]

Regardless, its still stupid, all of it. Italian gangster style as well.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by southernelle25

Sadly, these early rappers glorified and popularized this aspect of Italian-American culture. The gold chains got bigger, the pants baggier.

No, they didn't. Show me where popular urban/black clothing styles originated from early Italian Americans.

[mulattogyrl]

/hijack/

My A-didas
walkin' down two-fifth street
funky fresh and yes cold on my feet
with no shoestrings in 'em
i did not win 'em
i bought 'em on the ave with the black lee denims

/end hijack/

[GIJANE]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Yes you're correct, I'm ignorant and racist. The fact that you accuse me as such simply displays to me that you are not only ignorant, but incapable of rational thought. I realize that literacy may not come naturally to you, but if you glance above you'll notice that I said I believed those organizations did have plenty of history. I'm not in them, so I wouldn't know exactly what that entails. Doing some research wouldn't really help either, seeing as my Kappa Sig friends claim they were founded in Biblical times, so I don't really accept overly much that I don't experience for myself. Also, I really don't care that much. I have other things to concern myself than extensive research of groups I'm not that concerned with. I'm sure they will continue on just fine without my interest. Sure, you can call that ideology "ignorance," but if not blanketly accepting what I'm given is "ignorance" then I'm proud to be termed as such. How exactly does this make me racist? Because when I think greek I think IFC and NPC? Well then fine, call me racist. I'm also a Republican and against Affirmative Action, so why don't you go ahead and tack on bigot to your unfounded classification of my personality. The kind of comments you've displayed remind me of the intellectual brilliance shown through comments like "George Bush hates black people." Keep up the good work.

You need to calm down and have a drink or two...It's ok for you not to be concerned with NPHC function and history. However, there is plenty of info on the web for those who wish to know our illustrious histories and so forth. We have been around for a long time and warrant respect. There are Masons and Eastern Stars that think sororities and fraternities are a joke because they have been around since before Christ and they have a right to that opinion. You are not a racist, so stop acting retarded!

[GIJANE]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Well you said "most" but you never said that was just based on the ones you've run across.

None of this stuff is 100%. There are BGLO members who say USED (and there are even more whose actions aren't reflective of a lifetime commitment). The difference is that it appears to be more of a crime against humanity when BGLO members don't live out their lifetime commitment.

If members of BGLOs say "used to", it's because they are usually taking a permanent hiatus from the organization and no longer wish to be affiliated. It should be a crime to join a BGLO and then become completely inactive once you graduate. The work of the organization is not completed just because you graduated and honestly the alumni and alumnae chapters work their butts off for the community. So why not affiliate with one?

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by GIJANE

If members of BGLOs say "used to", it's because they are usually taking a permanent hiatus from the organization and no longer wish to be affiliated. It should be a crime to join a BGLO and then become completely inactive once you graduate. The work of the organization is not completed just because you graduated and honestly the alumni and alumnae chapters work their butts off for the community. So why not affiliate with one?

One reason could be money. We never know someone's financial situation, and in some cases you aren't considered a 'member' if you haven't paid dues.

[GIJANE]

Originally Posted by Xidelt

Your ignorance really shows. I think I know a little something about big southern universities--I'm an alum of UGA, class of 2001. I also know a little something about the NPHC groups. One of my friends my freshman year was a sister of Sigma Gamma Rho. They do quite a bit of service in addition to the stepshows and parties at the nightclubs you talk about. I remember a workshop in the dorms about campus safety sponsored by her sorority and the UGA police department. There was also a panel discussion in the dorms about the differences/similarities between "white greeks" and "black greeks". It was really interesting and brought up many of the points discussed in this thread. During spring semester, all of the girls on my hall attended the step show to support our friend in SGR. Despite the notion of a "thuggish/street gang" atmosphere, it was anything but. My friends and I had a great time supporting our friend and nobody got cut, mugged, or stabbed. Gee, what a surprise! Now that I'm a teacher, I work with several women who are active members of graduate chapters of Alpha Kappa Alpha and Delta Sigma Theta. They still do active service projects, such as a science camp for teenage girls. Anything thuggish about that? And my experience is by observation only--I'm a member of a "white sorority"

Thanks for your reply...you have the correct image of what an NPHC organization is about on college campuses. As a matter of fact many were established on majority institution campuses in order to provide a much needed bond with other African-Americans because they were not welcome in a GLO. Shinerbock has to realize that because of our bastardized, oppressive history in America, we weren't always allowed to be educated in any schools (especially colleges) in certain parts of the country, cause I don't know....maybe we were picking cotton or being someone's servant. So the organizations are fairly new for historical reasons if you consider 100 years new...

[shinerbock]

GIJANE, um what were you talking about in your response to me. I'm quite aware that I'm not a racist, how was I being retarded?