Computer Errors???

SECMom · #1 10-17-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Legacys are never a sure thing no matter what the old tales were.

The men/women of each group have to make the individual decission for their chapter.

Basically, is this person right for the chapter?

They can make mistakes as has been seen and those who do not make it can go on and become great members of other GLOs.

Well, my sorority DOES have a legacy policy. If a legacy is invited to pref she goes on the first list, no matter what. If you are not willing to offer her a bid, you don't invite her to pref. My daughter's GLO has a different policy, but they still give legacies special consideration IF they invite them to pref. Our policy also sort of mirrors the whole "release figures" idea--it is kinder to let them go earlier in the process so that they can consider other options than to carry them longer when you know that they are not a good fit.

Something a friend pointed out to me today: some GLOs count only daughters and sisters as legacies. Others count granddaughters and nieces...some girls may be a legacy to XYZ because their grandmother was an XYZ, but not a legacy to PDQ even though their OTHER grandmother was a PDQ....this might be one explanation for the "legacy dropped after pref" situation.

TSteven · #2 10-17-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SECMom

If a legacy is invited to pref she goes on the first list, no matter what. If you are not willing to offer her a bid, you don't invite her to pref.

Hypothetically speaking - and without getting into specifics of membership selection - what happens if quota (i.e. the first bid list) is going to be ten. Yet going into the preference round, a chapter has twelve legacies that the chapter would love to have (perfect fit as it were) as members - i.e. willing to offer a bid.

The chapter is at total and the campus panhellenic is only going to allow the chapter to extend ten bids (i.e. quota). If the legacy policy states all legacies invited to preference round must go on the first bid list, would the chapter be required to drop two of the legacies before preference? Or would the chapter be allowed to invite all twelve legacies to the preference round and put two of the legacies on the second bid list?

UGAalum94 · #3 10-17-2006, 07:43 PM

TStephen, I don't really know the answer to your question, but I would guess that they invite them to pref and place them on the second list.

I suspect that it's is done this way because you don't really know in advance that all the legacies are going to rank the legacy GLO group first. So in your example, if two of the group's top ten choose a different number one choice, the eleventh and twelfth girls would match.

As I said, I have no expert knowledge about bid list formation, but I do know that there are some groups at big southern schools that have more than a pledge class of legacies go through rush each year. I doubt they drop girls that they would want before prefs in anticipation of 100% matching the first list.

(Something else to consider is that these girls are frequently legacies at more than one groups: a Chi Omega mom, a Phi Mu sister, maybe a grandmother or aunt at a group that includes these relationships as legacies, etc. They can only match one although they may pref. three.)

TSteven · #4 10-17-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

TStephen, I don't really know the answer to your question, but I would guess that they invite them to pref and place them on the second list.

I suspect that it's is done this way because you don't really know in advance that all the legacies are going to rank the legacy GLO group first. So in your example, if two of the group's top ten choose a different number one choice, the eleventh and twelfth girls would match.

My feeling was this might be the scenario. All twelve invited to the preference round with ten going on the first bid list and two on the second bid list.

DeltaBetaBaby · #5 10-17-2006, 09:04 PM

Don't always be so sure that suzie PNM put her legacy chapter first on her bid card, either.

OleMissGlitter · #6 10-18-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Don't always be so sure that suzie PNM put her legacy chapter first on her bid card, either.

AMEN! I have known many PNMs at Ole Miss that lie to their mothers, their sisters, their friends in houses, etc....afterall it is their choice and their business. Perhaps they don't want to upset mom or sister or friend...

My sister was a legacy to Theta, double legacy to AOII, and then had courtesies to Kappa. She ended up going AOII but still, she could have lied to me and put something else!

Side Note: This year Panhellenic did not release legaices to the sororities. Meaning the ICS Recruiter program used to list all of the legacies a members had. (i.e. Mary is has an AOII mom, Theta sister, Pi Phi sister, AOII aunt.) This year it only listed the legacies your own sorority had. Therefore, all PNMs were probably given a more fair chance and their legacies were not held against them. (Some houses will assume you are going to your legacy and drop you.) There were a few big legacies who joined other houses because they were given a more fair and equal recruitment. On the flip side, if the PNM had a rec her legacies were most likely written on the rec or her resume, so the chapter could find out that way and if they did some good research.

KSUViolet06 · #7 10-21-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jessXIca

what does it mean to have courtesies?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's when you aren't technically covered by the legacy policy, but the chapter sort of extends you the same courtesies. For example, let's say an active member's cousin is going through. Cousins are not legacies, but the chapter can choose to treat her as one because of her connection to the chapter.

SigKapCoug · #8 10-17-2006, 07:45 PM

The year I rushed there was the "Susie Smith" situation... 2 girls, same name. Apparently it was really confusing for the chapters. They weren't in the same Rho Gam group becasue the computer bumped the first one when the second was added and she had to be re-added..

Anyway, they are both in my pledge class. We always joke that if a woman named "Susie Smith" shows up during rush we're going to have to let her go because 2 is confusing enough!

AngieWashU · #9 10-21-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SigKapCoug

The year I rushed there was the "Susie Smith" situation... 2 girls, same name. Apparently it was really confusing for the chapters.

The year after I went through recruitment, there was a girl with the same first name (fairly unique) and last initial as my (non-Greek) roommate. When my roommate was seen with one of our Kappa friends on-campus, our Kappa friend got in trouble for violating silence rules. It took some time to convince her chapter that the girl she was hanging out with wasn't the PNM Susie S.